#1
First off, I don't like country. Especially new country. Anyway, I was watching ESPN news, and I saw a commercial for some guy Trace Adkin's new CD. There was a song called "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk." They showed excerpts from the music video which featured women in short skirts shaking their badonkadonk, if you will, in a nightclub atmosphere, and then Mr. Adkins shows his two ghetto style rings that say "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk." Anyway, my point is, does anybody else forsee country basically become rap for white people? By that I mean, do you think that country artists will continue to write songs featuring not-so-subtle and innane references to sex (such as badonkadonk. C'mon, whatever happened to sex songs with a little more subtleness like Led Zeppelin's Black Dog?) and bling bling. C'mon, bling in country? I see a very contradictory future for this already weak genre.
#2
yeah
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it is
but i dont care
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if ur gonna listen 2 country just listen 2 johnny cash buck owens or john5
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#5
Yeah, i notice a sad trend when i hit the bars at college, the people that Love country music and dance around all sloppy are the very same people that know all the words to the latest hip-hop. Hip-hop and Modern Country are both about being drunk and having a party, which explains why in both genre's the music centers around liquor (beer or high end hooch) and some icon of party culture (mexico or big city clubs)
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#6
Black Dog is subtle? Anyway, alt-country is where it's at. Try Wilco, Neko Case and Jason Collett.
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#7
how is black dog even slightly subtle. gonna make you sweat gonna make you groove is obvious to anyone, while someone not pop-culture savvy might not immediately connect badonkadonk with anything.

anyway, on the subject, modern commercial country music has some of the most cookie-cutter insipid bull**** on the market. there is certainly good country though, and while it's far from my favorite genre, there's plenty of stuff that's decent. i would say it's not a bad connection to compare it to ****ty rap. both sell a glorified foolish lifestyle through the subject matter rather than quality. you can certainly write good songs about drugs, violence, ignorance etc, but they unfortunately just don't.
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#8
Toby Keith and Shania Twain are the new Michael Jackson. And it is horrible. Country music is nothing the way it was mean't to be. If you want to get good country the best thing to do is check out bluegrass. Seldon Scene are pretty modern but still are incredible. Ralph Stanley is an awesome pick as well. Gillian Welch is folk/country and she and here guitarist David Rawlings are amazing. Don't fall into crap country. There is still some good new stuff coming out. You just need to look harder.
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#9
Holy shit, I do not even know where to begin with a thread opener like this.
Lets start with the rap dissing:
1. Not all rap is bad. There is good rap, and I will upload some for you to prove you wrong if you like.

2. Who says rap is only for black people? Look at the Beastie Boys, Eminem,
and myself.

Ok, on to the country and rock refrences:
3. Rock and country has always been about women. In fact, 70% of music is about the opposite sex.

4. Rock has never really been subtle. "Black Dog", subtle? I think you're on more drugs than Jimmy Page. And listen to Guns and Roses lyrics, then tell me they're all clean and lovey-dovey

5. Finally, there is good and bad in every genre. Good rap, bad rap. Good country, bad country. Bad metal... and well... good metal.
#10
As for country music portraying a glorified foolish lifestyle through the subject matter rather than quality. Most country songs are about loss and the lamenting off lost loves. If you want to lump all country into one category because of one commercial I would say that you are being very narrow minded. Trace Adkins also has a song called "Arlington" and it's about a soldier dying and going to Arlington National Cemetary and seeing all of relatives and men women off the armed forces buried there. If that is quality and depth of meaning then you my friend need to be instructed in the realities of life. Country music has always found a way to lyrically voice the emotions and feelings of people.This as well in the US country music is the most popular genre, there are more country music formatted stations than any other. Garth Brooks is the top selling artist of all time for any genre the man has sold more albums than the Beatles. So when thinking of bashing an entire industry keep that in mind.
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Yeah, but unfortunately Garth Brooks isnt too country IMO. He is poppy and pretty generic. Which is pretty much what the thread starter is complaining about. Brooks has the ability but not the soul of Cash, The Carter's, Hank Williams (SR!!), Dolly Parton, etc. He is kind of like Ricky Scaggs used to be. Skaggs was bad ass then whored himself out now he is back to some sick ass bluegrass and I couldn't be happier. Garth is pop in my opinion. I personally consider pop it's own category. Plus, record sale mean nothing. Looking at how many crap CDs have sold that now sit in the dollar bin at the local pawn shop.
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#12
@two above, i was not speaking about country in general, just modern top forty country which i do feel suits my description.

specifically about the song you mentioned, i'd have to hear it to tell you if it's good, and i unfortunately have not. but again, telling me the subject matter, while interesting, isn't going to tell me it's a good song. i don't deny that the songs mean a lot to a lot of people, but when a ten year old writes a poem for themselves it might mean a great deal too. it might not pass for quality art, however. again, not attacking this song or country in general, just most of what i've heard of popular country does not back up their good sentiments with quality music.
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#13
yeah thats a good point everything is starting to blend together and commercialism is running amuck. only country i like is cash but im currently looking for some good alt country artists
#14
Modern Country= Pop Music
Argue with me you want, but if you pay attention to it you will realize that modern "country" is usually just cliche, overproduced Pop music.

Classic Country= Great Music
Artists like Johnny Cash, Hank Williams, and David Allen Coe speak from thier own hearts and present great music.

The genre has changed so much that "Country Music" labels wouldn't even produce Johnny Cash's later work because they didn't think it would sell. The video for Hurt was played on MTV but CMT refused to play it.

It offends me that "Modern Country" is even called country, it should be classified as pop. People hear it and never even give good country and bluegrass artists a chance.
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Well, for one thing, rap isn't only for black people. Also, I don't think one example of a Country song somewhat resembling the diction of certain rap songs makes new country "rap for white people".
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