#1
Oh ****ing hell, another pedal thread.

Yes. I did a search.

Well, I have a Vox AD15VT. Its ****ing great, but I can't get a REALLY Heavy Scooped distortion sound. I can get a great Trivium sound, but not a very good Early Metallica or Pantera sound. I also want to be able to get a great lead sound. I am getting an EQ so I will have the means to tweak it.
Any good ones that don't cost a bomb? I was looking at the Marshall Jackhammer but apparently its a bit muddy.

Thank you!
#2
i dont think anyone can re-create a pantera sound, ring up dimes gf and ask her, or vinnie paul, that might work.
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#3
It's generally a difficult thing to nail the pantera tone, dime used randall amps, plus the bill lawerence pickups also make a pretty big difference as well. For an EQ pedal, maybe check out the Boss GE-7, maybe the MXR KFK? You also might want to invest into a distortion pedal as well, check out the Boss MT-2.
#4
pantera sound-you can use a lot of stuff for that, it's all in your EQ settings, look at the ultimate eq thread for that

metallica-i've gotten that a lot, my friend and i got a PERFECT metallica sound recording kill 'em all direct from his marshall MG [yes, a marshall MG] through his jackson [my ESP with the same settings had way more bass, but still sounded good]
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#5
Well I'll probably get the MXR 6-band eq cheap from the USA.

If I use that to scoop mids, will I get a better metal sound?
#6
most likely
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#7
For the pantera sound, start with a SH-13 Dimebucker in the bridge. I dont know how far this is true, but I think initially Dimebag used to use a solid-state amp.

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#8
no no no no no!!

DO NOT GET THE DIMEBUCKER

really really bad pickup

start with the bill lawrence l 500xl pickups

and dimebag used mainly 3 amps:

1) randall century 200
2) his randall warheads
3) krankenstein [with damageplan]

he used the century 200 for most of his career
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#10
really? Is the Dimebucker that bad? I was planning on gettin that last month, but somehow I totally forgot to. Good thing I didnt. LOL

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#11
yes, good thing you didn't

if you want to get a good pickup, get the bill lawrence l 500xl

but since you have a xxx tube amp [god i hate that thing] you should probably get a pair of EMG's
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#12
It's pretty hard to obtain K.Armstrong pikcups yow !!
Tone is all ...... well probably 75%, in your fingers.
The rest depends on your wallet's thickness !!

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#13
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yes, good thing you didn't

if you want to get a good pickup, get the bill lawrence l 500xl

but since you have a xxx tube amp [god i hate that thing] you should probably get a pair of EMG's


LOL. Looks like there are only 2 people on the UG forum who actually like the XXX... me and gpderek09. That's ok. Tone is subjective and I love the tone I'm getting... for now. ok, I will get 'em EMG's. Thanks

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#14
yeah stay the **** away from the dimebucker its horrible, dime loved his randall warhead most, which was a solid state beast...
#15
The Dimebucker is good enough for me to poop on.

As far as the EQ goes, put the bass up, put the treb up.. and put the mids at 0.

And, get a good distortion pedal.. preferably a Boss Distortion. Cheap and good!
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pantera sound-you can use a lot of stuff for that, it's all in your EQ settings, look at the ultimate eq thread for that

metallica-i've gotten that a lot, my friend and i got a PERFECT metallica sound recording kill 'em all direct from his marshall MG [yes, a marshall MG] through his jackson [my ESP with the same settings had way more bass, but still sounded good]


I'd love to hear a recording from an MG that got a PERFECT metallica sound.

Threadstarter: Got a budget? Maybe I can recommend some other gear besides a pedal that'll get you a good metal tone.
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#17
Well I have a Boss DS-2. I use this as a tone booster for Metallica/Trivium.

I think I may just get an MXR EQ. This way I can at least get better metal tones by shaping the sound.
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If I use that to scoop mids, will I get a better metal sound?


Not neccessarily, there are plenty of metal bands that don't scoop their mids, Slayer, Children Of Bodom...

And a 'scooped' tone isn't just turning down the mids, it's lowering the mids (around 0-3) And boosting the treble and bass. I find a scooped tone sounds hollow, like it's missing something (Probably the mids ) and overly bassey. The mids I always find help bring out the treble and clarity.
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#21
Quote by the1


I can get a great Trivium sound, but not a very good Early Metallica or Pantera sound.



To the thread starter i have the VOX AD30VT
I can get a great early Metallica sound out of it
For early Metallica sound i use:
Amp model - UK Modern
Gain - 10
Treble - 7
Mids - 1-2

hope this helps also check out this website
http://www.valvetronix.net/valvetronix/
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Not neccessarily, there are plenty of metal bands that don't scoop their mids, Slayer, Children Of Bodom...

And a 'scooped' tone isn't just turning down the mids, it's lowering the mids (around 0-3) And boosting the treble and bass. I find a scooped tone sounds hollow, like it's missing something (Probably the mids ) and overly bassey. The mids I always find help bring out the treble and clarity.


man, i find the exactly opposite. mids just sound soo hollow to me. like laihos tone sounds like he playing inside a tin can...
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man, i find the exactly opposite. mids just sound soo hollow to me. like laihos tone sounds like he playing inside a tin can...


After doing some quick experimenting with the mids, I can see what you mean. They seem to fuck with your sound if you put them too low or too high Hollow was probably a bad word for me to use because it actually sounds more hollow when you put them up, I keep them around 4 - 5 now.
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#24
yeah. i happy balance of mids is always needed to both allow the guitarist to sound good and cut through.

either way, even though i EQ my amp mids-0, because its a marshall it still sounds middy.

also, to quote a wiseman 'tone is in the fingers'
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#26
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It's generally a difficult thing to nail the pantera tone, dime used randall amps, plus the bill lawerence pickups also make a pretty big difference as well. For an EQ pedal, maybe check out the Boss GE-7, maybe the MXR KFK? You also might want to invest into a distortion pedal as well, check out the Boss MT-2.


The MT-2 will only be good if he's playing at bedroom level. That pedal is HORRIBLE when you play it loud, With A LOT of tweaking EQ and getting the right setting the pedal can sound good with my Vox AD50VT at low bedroom level volume. Anything llouder and youre on your own.
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The MT-2 will only be good if he's playing at bedroom level. That pedal is HORRIBLE when you play it loud, With A LOT of tweaking EQ and getting the right setting the pedal can sound good with my Vox AD50VT at low bedroom level volume. Anything llouder and youre on your own.



Agreed, I always used the MT-2 for at least 3 years playing alone. Always thought people here were on crack when they said it was a terrible pedal, but then I got in a band and tried using it when we were practicing... it wasn't pretty.

It's got a good crunch to it at a low to mid volume level.
#28
^ Yeah man, at low volumes and the right EQ it can sound okay. Other than that is ****
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#30
A recommendation on an EQ pedal: MXR KFK 10-band. Sweet pedal, eveyone needs one, and it has flames on it. So yea.
#31
The uber metal, when i owned it I got a very similar to pantera tone. The Dime MXR thing sounds more like old school metallica. I think you'd be best off with the Yellow Line 6 distortion thing that has 4 footswitches on it. Sorry i'm having a brainfart.
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