#1
right guys

i am looking to purchase an amp for christmas and i have been granted proably jsut over £1000 for the whole kit so i was wondering:

from,

www.gak.co.uk

where could i get the best quality cab and head for a sound such as killswitch engage, as i lay dying, unearth kinda metalcore tone.

i was thinking line 6 or mesa but i think mesa are too much, any ideas.

thanks for the help id figure id ask some people who know what they are talking about then just go head first into buying an amp.

thanks again
#2
http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=69601

I hear that this amp is REALLY nice. A friend says it's the best solid state amp he's ever played. It's got the fender cleans and really really nice distortion.

If you're tones are more eclectic I would get a tube amp.

The MH is good for one thing: Heavy distortion
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#4
I don't know too much about cabs, so I'll leave those to the other guys. but I can recommend some nice heads and combos

http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=371 Laney VH100R
http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=3033 Mesa F30
http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=67843 Peavey 6505 (Dark Tone)
http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=9799 Peavey XXX (Brighter tone)

I think a 6505 would be good for a metalcore tone. But the others are very nice too
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#5
i recommend krank amps, but they might be loads more im not sure lol sorry
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#6
You've got a pretty decent budget to play with but not enough for a new mesa I'm afraid.
Go to a few shops and try stuff and read some reviews of pro gear and see what you can find second hand, there can be some bargains out there.

If I was looking for a head/cab combo with that sort of money I would probably be looking to try a Laney VHR100 for starters and a Marshall DSL or TSL100.
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Quote by CheeseMuffin909
http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=69601

I hear that this amp is REALLY nice. A friend says it's the best solid state amp he's ever played. It's got the fender cleans and really really nice distortion.

If you're tones are more eclectic I would get a tube amp.

The MH is good for one thing: Heavy distortion


You've been around long enough to know better Cheese, I've seen you post some questionable suggestions in the last few days. Stop recommending people buy SS halfstacks. You don't buy a SS halfstack unless you prefer SS, or there is a reason you need it, like having the most versatility you can. Even then, you don't need the halfstack version. I respect that your dad is a pro, but it sounds like he is playing other people's stuff for a living, rather than his own, and needs that versatility to cover stuff. You are paying top dollar really mainly for looks at that point with SS halfstacks. Certain ones like the Vox have a good array of decent sounds, but they aren't going to compare to the tone of a real tube amp. You will generally be able to get a much better sounding tube combo than a SS halfstack for the same price. And for future reference, a modeling amp "is" still a SS amp, even if it's using a preamp tube like a vox hybrid. The hybrids are more marketing then reality.

It's a widely held opinion that the tone of tube amps is far superior to SS. If that weren't the case, 99% of recording artists wouldn't be using them, and the technology would have died a long time ago. Vacuum tubes are a 1940's technology, far less efficient than SS, and less reliable, so there is a reason they are still around. Tube amps respond dynamically to your playing, which is something the SS modelers have yet to replicate. Also, the OD a tube amp produces at high volume is coveted, while a SS amp needs a ton of headroom so it doesn't start clipping at high volume, which is a dreadful sound. Some people prefer SS, but they are few and far between. There is a reason modeling amps are "trying" to sound like the well known tube amps.

That Fender Metal Head is a particularly crappy suggestion. I haven't heard one good thing about that amp for metal from anyone that's not a beginner. The only SS amp from Fender that I've heard any buzz over is the Supersonic, at least for metal.

TS, the Peavey and Mesa stuff is going to be very overpriced in the UK unfortunately. Your best bet is finding something used, you will get the most for your money that way. The good thing about tube amps, is the tubes themselves take most of the beating with a used amp and can be replaced, unlike SS which just gets tired sounding when they get old. The resale value is also a lot better on tube amps because of this. Failing that, check into the tube amps that Timi and rockers suggested. If you can go used, also look in the ENGL amps. The combos will be more reasonably priced, since you will pay big money for any good quality halfstack. With that kind of money, don't blow it on some SS halfstack that you will regret down the road.

also read up on the gear sticky at the top of this forum. It lists a lot of amps in your pricerange, and tells you the advantages of the different designs.
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i recommend krank amps, but they might be loads more im not sure lol sorry

the Kranks are even priced high in the states, I imagine they are WAY overpriced across the pond. Are you recommending after actually trying one, or just seeing someone playing one?
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#8
You could get yourself a pretty tasty secondhand rack setup for £1000 as well.
#10
Yeah nice. I haven't tried one but I hear there good. The AOR100 head I had years ago was a great amp. I still use the cab to this day.