#1
So, still in search of a new tube amp, I've tried out several Peaveys over at Sam Ash, the JSX and XXX, haven't been able to try out the 6505 combo for that long, the XXX was ok, JSX a little better, both were very noisy using an ESP LTD EC-400 with EMG pickups. Anyways, I'm into 80's metal - Slayer, Metallica, Van Halen, also stuff like Black Label Society, Floyd, Creed. I'm looking for a tube amp that'll be able to do the high gain metal and also have good cleans. The 5150's cleans arent that great, as a matter of fact none of the peavey's really have very good cleans. So I'm looking at Mesas and particulary Marshalls ie. JCM's. Which JCM- either 800, 900, or 2000, and the specific model, along with an OD pedal if necessary, would be handle those tones? Also open to any other suggestions, thanks.
#2
JCM 800's are probably better for your taste, although, the 900's are just as good.

The 2000, however, are pure ****e. Avoid them like the plague.

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#3
I reccomend the JCM 900 Dual Reverb (4100, 4500). The single channel 800 (2203, 2204) can do cleans (to an extent), but it's not very convienient trying to switch to cleans in them middle of a song. You could consider a two channel 800 (2205, 2210). It has footswitchable channels and can do cleans, but some say the overall tone isn't as good as the single channel ones. The 900's can do very nice cleans, as well as do pretty good 800 tones, and more, IMO. So the 900 is what I'd go for.
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Quote by pierce34celtic
So, still in search of a new tube amp, I've tried out several Peaveys over at Sam Ash, the JSX and XXX, haven't been able to try out the 6505 combo for that long, the XXX was ok, JSX a little better, both were very noisy using an ESP LTD EC-400 with EMG pickups. Anyways, I'm into 80's metal - Slayer, Metallica, Van Halen, also stuff like Black Label Society, Floyd, Creed. I'm looking for a tube amp that'll be able to do the high gain metal and also have good cleans. The 5150's cleans arent that great, as a matter of fact none of the peavey's really have very good cleans. So I'm looking at Mesas and particulary Marshalls ie. JCM's. Which JCM- either 800, 900, or 2000, and the specific model, along with an OD pedal if necessary, would be handle those tones? Also open to any other suggestions, thanks.

you thought the xxx was noisy? how high did you have the gain? it doesn't even need to be up to half to be really saturated sounding. past half its just overkill. at band practice i play at decent volume, and we do start/stop riffs all the time, and i get no feedback or unless i want it. you only need a little bit of gain with it for it to sound heavy.
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#11
I highly recommend the JCM 800's single channel models i.e. 2203.

Gonna sound but i find the standard tone pretty good but these amps are amazing due to their modification potential. There are alot of people who specialise purely in 800 mods and they can become phenominal amps.
#16
800's are the best. 900's are similar to 800's except with higher gain (usually). 2000's aren't that bad. They are diverse and give more tonal options at the tap of a footswitch, but the individual channels lack the clarity of the 800 or 900.
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#17
Out of these choices which would be best for the previously mentioned styles?

Mesa Mark IV - not sure if I really need all the versatility plus I heard it doesn't excell at anything, just good at everything

Mesa F-50- Much more simple, heard it may be a bit muddy on distortion but it's cleans are awesome.

Marshall JCM 800- Would have to be able to find a 2 channel version- either the 4212 or 2205 head version. May not be versatile enough or heavy enough for metal at lower volumes. Does it have to be cranked in order to get heavy distortion?
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#18
Definitely try a JCM900. I'm positive it'll get you what you want and more if you get an OD.
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Quote by pierce34celtic

Marshall JCM 800- Would have to be able to find a 2 channel version- either the 4212 or 2205 head version. May not be versatile enough or heavy enough for metal at lower volumes. Does it have to be cranked in order to get heavy distortion?


If you cant find a two channel head, you can get good cleans by turning down the volume knob on your guitar (just for live). They got master volume, so it wont need to be cranked to get overdrive... But im pretty shure you'll need an OD for metall
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the mark IV excells at everything.
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