#1
ok i just got this idea and i was wondering if it would work:

ok here is my question, i really cant afford to buy a new or used bass guitar right now, but i have a acoustic Fender do u think i could take off all the strings and put on all bass strings and make it like an acoustic bass would this work and have it so i can switch back and fourth btw the two. anyone who can give me a straight answer would be apprecated!!
thnx

km
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#2
Make it fretless and yes.

otherwise no, the itonation on the frets would be wrong.
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Make it fretless and yes.

otherwise no, the itonation on the frets would be wrong.


what is itonation if u dont mind me asking??
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#4
If you're going to have a new neck put on it, yeah it'll work. otherwise the neck scale is way too short to really accomidate the low octave tuning of a bass guitar. It'd sound like ass... And yeah, the frets wouldn't help it either, as kingy said.
#5
You'd need to change the bridge, nut, tuning pegs and basically everything about it. Not further ruining an acoustic guitar just cos you not got the cash to buy a bass. Basses are really cheap anyways, they may be crappy sounding but hey, its better then nothing!
#7
no it wont it will just rip it apart
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#8
Intonation is the consistency of notes between the corresponding frets. If you have a string tuned to B, and you fret the 7th fret, it should be an F#. Likewise, if you fret the 12th fret, it should be a B. If you fret the 9th fret on your low E and it is not a C#, your intonation is messed up. The best way to check your intonation is to get a tuner that measures cents, then play the 12th fret harmonic on a string, then play the 12th fretted note on the same string. If they are further than 3 cents off of each other, you should get your bridge intonated. I could sit and explain how to do all that, but its really something you should see done, and I have to go get high now, no time for typing.

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#9
I remember a discussion like this before concerning a conversion from an electric guitar. Doing an acoustic seems even more difficult to me.
Here's the challenges you will meet:
The scale is to short to tune down normal gauche bass strings to a sensible tension. Either you fix expensive custom made strings of an extreme thickness or you'll lengthen the scale. Perhaps you may find a solution in strings made for some other instruments.
Lengthening the scale is not easily done. Fitting a whole new neck seems not a good alternative to me, considering this should be a shoe string project. Moving the bridge further towards the edge is no easy option either. As said above, this will mess up the fret placement. Doing away with the frets is the most rational solution to this, but then big problems still remain. The internal soundboard bracing will make no sense anymore for this is designed with the bridge placement as the essential parameter. This bridge is also cunningly placed on the spot where the vibrations are most efficiently transferred to the sound board. Further towards the edge the soundboard is much less easy to be agitated into producing a sound.
Instead of solving all these problems maybe you could strike a compromise by going only half way down and aim for baritone tuning. Fit six of the strongest strings you can buy, set up the action a lot higher and tune to B E A D F# b. Now the scale is only a bit too short and still you can make interesting music playing together with someone on a regular guitar. It'll not be the same as a bass though.
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ok i just got this idea and i was wondering if it would work:

ok here is my question, i really cant afford to buy a new or used bass guitar right now, but i have a acoustic Fender do u think i could take off all the strings and put on all bass strings and make it like an acoustic bass would this work and have it so i can switch back and fourth btw the two. anyone who can give me a straight answer would be apprecated!!
thnx

km


OK, my straight answer is NO.

Buy the time you have pissed around with everything, you will wish you'd just bought a bass. And you will have probably ballsed up your acoustic. Just get the cheapest bass you can find anywhere, even Walmart. As long as you're playing, that's the main thing bro
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OK, my straight answer is NO.

Buy the time you have pissed around with everything, you will wish you'd just bought a bass. And you will have probably ballsed up your acoustic. Just get the cheapest bass you can find anywhere, even Walmart. As long as you're playing, that's the main thing bro


exactly ,if u dont have any money for a bass then why would u **** up a completely fine guitar..
which would rpobably cost the same as a cheap bass.
#12
If you put bass strings on an acoustic guitar, the tension from the strings will break the neck.
#13
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If you put bass strings on an acoustic guitar, the tension from the strings will break the neck.


^this is absolutely correct.
an acoustic guitar has a fixed neck (glued-on). bass strings will break the neck, at the point where the neck, attaches to the body.
No, it will not work. sorry.
#14
Hey guys, Brian Ritchie of the Violent Femmes did it.

You would need to cut a new nut, you would need a new bridge, and probably a different neck. It would sound really really bad, but it would work.


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Hey guys, Brian Ritchie of the Violent Femmes did it.

You would need to cut a new nut, you would need a new bridge, and probably a different neck. It would sound really really bad, but it would work.


finnally some one that says it would probbally work thnx every one for the information appreciate it!!
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#16
I said it would work, it would just sound really really super bad. Just making sure you got that bit of information.


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#17
i think you just have to think really hard if the end justify the means, and no, no they do not. cahnces are, if you've never done it before or dont have anybody experienced at this kind of thing, chances are you'll probably mess it up anyway.

if the goal is playability, its really not worth it.
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#19
Sell the acoustic and use the money to buy a bass
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#20
^^ why woudl u sell the acoustic it seems fine (hes got a link in his sig) i would jsut save
#21
Psh, who needs to convert an acoustic when you can get strings and a washtub hooked up? Think of all the hillbilly jugband music you've been missing out on.

#22
as everyone sane above said.. dun bother.. it wont work i gurantee u (unless u spend a lot of $$)
to everyone who even hinted for him to try... pls think b4 u post...
or jst give up on bass and play acoustic~..or pretend ur playing a bass.. jst dun paly the bottom 2 strings.. or pretend u ahve a 6 string bass...
lame...
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#23
if you want people to tell you, what you wanna hear, you're in the wrong forum. regardless of what, "whats his name did", an acoustic guitar has a permanently mounted neck. it cannot be exchanged or replaced, only repaired. the tuning keys required for bass strings cannot be retro fitted into a 6 string guitar head with-out some serious, and costly modifications. the bridge will not accept bass strings, it would have to be replaced. the saddle and the nut would also, require changing.
is it possible? yes. is it practicle, or cost effective? No.
be careful of the advice here, in this forum. it is very often given by, well meaning, unknowledgable, beginners.
#24
The only way it will work if you use very light bass strings (90 75 65 40) and make sure that you have a truss rod in the neck.

Use this website as a check to see how much more the tension will be:
http://www.pacificsites.net/~dog/StringTensionApplet.html

Chances are, with the lighter guage strings, it will be comparable. You have to understand that the six guitar strings are at a higher pitch, so they have more tension on them to bring them to pitch. But the heavier the string, the more tension is required to bring it to pitch. But you only have 4 strings to deal with instead of six, so that's two less strings to pull on the neck.

The other issue, is the bridge. You will need to redrill new holes to accomodate the spacing of the bass strings, which will weaken the acoustic top of the guitar.

The length of the neck will not ideally affect intonation that much, for it is based on a logarithmic scale. But the thickness of the strings will mean that the effective length of the heavier strings will be a hair longer than the lighter strings, due to their diameter. You may be able to compensate by filing down the bridge bone like |\ instead of /\. Start with a new bridge bone. You will also need to get a new nut and more stable tuning keys (I recommend the Steinberger straight thru locking tuners from Stewart-McDonald).

It's not impossible, but due to the shorter scale and the smaller body, the tone will not be that deep. Plus, the strings will probably be kind of low in tension to get the right pitch, so they will flop around and buzz quite a bit against adjacent frets.

Your best bet is to shell out about $150 and get a Dean Playmate bass. It's a good buy, has decent sound projection for the price, and is cheaper in time and money than trying to cannibalize your acoustic guitar into a bass. I would not do it. Be kind to your guitar--it does what it does--don't try to force it to sing an octave lower, you'll kill its spirit.
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as everyone sane above said.. dun bother.. it wont work i gurantee u (unless u spend a lot of $$)
to everyone who even hinted for him to try... pls think b4 u post...
or jst give up on bass and play acoustic~..or pretend ur playing a bass.. jst dun paly the bottom 2 strings.. or pretend u ahve a 6 string bass...
lame...


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#26
Quote by kwokwok
as everyone sane above said.. dun bother.. it wont work i gurantee u (unless u spend a lot of $$)
to everyone who even hinted for him to try... pls think b4 u post...
or jst give up on bass and play acoustic~..or pretend ur playing a bass.. jst dun paly the bottom 2 strings.. or pretend u ahve a 6 string bass...
lame...


I don't know who you refer to as everyone who even hinted him to try, but it certainly wasn't me. In fact of all the responders, only Incubus_science showed some optimism initially, but he backed off rapidly when Kam3 stated that his was the information he was looking for and he would gladly disregard all other responses. I mean, if someone is so desperately looking for misinformation, what do you want us to do about it?
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