#1
Howdy!
I was just wondering if it's possible to get an ESP EXP that ain't used these days? The EXP is NOT the EX, the EXP is the pre-gibson lawsuit explorer that ESP used to make.. Is it possible to contact ESP and ask them to do one, or will that be expensive?

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#2
hmm, contact gibson and ask them to make you one specialy? shouldn't be expensive at all....

Seriously, i don't think they would make one for you and if they did it would cost the earth.

Best bet is ebay and classifieds, or look around some online shops that specialise in re-furbished guitars and stuff.
#3
they are still made in Japan through custom shop, if you search and email, you may be able to find a shop in Japan that may ship one to you, but that breaks the rules by ESP and they could lose their license to sell them. I would check out the ESP board, I bought my black EXP over there from a guy and it kicks ass, looks soooo much better then the Gibson's (except the 84's without the pickguard). There is ton's of info that board about EXP's, I'm sure you will find what your looking for over there, hell, someone might point you in the right direction, I just hope you have about $2500 USD to drop!
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#5
^run along now little boy, the grown ups are talking.

anway you won't get a non used EXP because it's a pre lawsuit model, and they had to stop making thm cause of, well you know, the lawsuit. ESP won't make one because that's likely to get them sued again.

But it might depend where you are. ESP make a RR model (ESP SV) everywhere else in the world except the US so the lawsuit migh not be applicable elsewhere. The EXP is a discontiued model though so I doubt you'll be able to get one.
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#6
Why not just buy a Gibson and change the pickups? Or are there other features which cannot be added?

You could try to contact ESP's custom shop, although that's bound to be an expensive guitar.
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#7
In that case, artists such as James Hetfield must be playing something different than the EXP model, though it has to be something that is identical to the EXP model..? I have to admit that I am a huge fan of this model, and I am eager to find the model that is, as proven, not the EXP model, though something identical to it. Help finding these guitars are greatly appreciated!

Thanks
#9
^That one is awesome! Stuffie, Id buy that one right away!
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#10
Found a fantasial custom one on ebay, but yeh, the pre-lawsuit ones are only made in request now, and I'd get a custom from www.ranguitars.com
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#11
the EXPs are still produced in Japan and Europe, they cant sell them or advertise them in the US or they will face another gibson lawsuit, we tried to make a customshop EX body and put a non revearse george lynch bananna neck but ESP wouldnt let us do it, you have to find a shop in europe or japan that will ship to the US that will risk their ESP franchise
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#12
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I'd stay away from that, 300 or below isn't worth it, agathis body, which is junk when EMG's are thrown into it, cheap hardware, it isn't worth it man. If you go LTD, go 300, they are CLOSE standard EXP's. Once again, you can still order EXP and MX's in custom shop ONLY IN JAPAN. The Gibson explorer copyright only extends into the US, hence why you can purchase them in Japan, but ESP dealers in Japan can NOT send the EXP to the US due to Gibson copyright laws and if they are caught, they lose their license to sell ESP. All the Explorer's Hetfield plays are from back in the day, besides his Ken Lawrence custom's he has. He also has a Gibson Explorer he plays, it's an older stlye, 78 year I believe, he had it sanded down and repainted satin black, he made his own pickguard and it has a rusted look to it, he moved the toggle switch near the knobs, and no it isn't a Gothic explorer, it's a het custom

Trust me man I was just like you, I HAD to have a black explorer just like Hetfield, but don't settle for anything less then what you want, it will worth it in the end, I waited for about 4 months until I found what I wanted, and it's exactly what I want, it's a beauty. Hopefully crunchmeister or MetalUpTheAss with chime in here soon, they know their stuff, that's how I was enlightened.
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#13
Hey dudes

Actually, Bad Seed, when I saw this thread I wanted to link to this one but I guess you wisened up enough to keep that guy?

Anyways, threadstarter, how much money do you have?

Because if you have about 2,000 dollars, are looking for a 100% custom shop gutiar in the explorer shape made by the company that does it best...

Look into the MX-250. It's basically a 100% Hetfield signature, sold throughout Japan and Europe but you can get them over to America. They're pretty much done in the Hetfield spec down to the bone, and are built in the Custom Shop, so they're the highest quality imaginable. Maple neck thru, mahogany body wings, EMG 81/60 combo, Sperzel locking tuners, TonePros locking bridge, only difference I believe is these might have a rosewood fretboard.

If you're looking used, you can often find ESP Custom EXP's from the early 1990's. These will be like Bad Seed's, they'll have (most likely) a maple bolt on neck, mahogany body, EMG 81/81 (what Jaymz used back in Justice era). These were mass-made in the custom shop, so it was easier (And MUCH cheaper for the customer back then) to do Neckthru. ESP wasn't quite as advanced then as now, so when they made Neckthrus it was like a 700-1000 dollar upcharge. Most people just went for Bolt Ons, which give you more attack but less sustain.

Check out near the bottom of this thread for more Hetfield infos

Depending on how much money and tenacity you have, you can find a ESP Explorer at a different ranges. Sometimes some sellers (Like the EXP-200) are just ripoffs because of the lawsuit. If you can find a EXP-400 for under say 700 bucks, that right there is a deal. If you can afford a bit more, you can probably find one of those 90's ESP Customs that weren't MEGA custom (i.e. like Bad Seed's, made in the custom shop but they were all made to the same specs and all made together in batches) and if you got a lot of money you can get a brand new sweet sweet custom Explorer.
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#14
Hahaha, the thing is not that I want a guitar that looks just like James Hetfield's :P I simply love the Explorer shape, and therefore I collect them. I have already collected two gibson explorers, and I have The EX-400 and EX-400BD, what bothers me is that I don't have a pre-lawsuit shaped ESP explorer. Cause they rock my butt I must say, simply love em'!

Anyhow, people tell me that the guitars are sold in Europe, which is great, since I live in Europe.
That MX-250 you talked about, MetalUpTheAss, where can those be found? I've searched some on the internet, but can't seem to find anyone selling them.

That EXP-400 for under 700 bucks sounds really interesting.. Please do tell me if you have any tip on where I can find a guitar like that.

Thanks
#16
If you're in europe then you can order one from japan and have it sent to you. The shop will have no problems because there's no risk to their lisence. It'll still have to be a custom job but you should be able to get one.
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Hahaha, the thing is not that I want a guitar that looks just like James Hetfield's :P I simply love the Explorer shape, and therefore I collect them. I have already collected two gibson explorers, and I have The EX-400 and EX-400BD, what bothers me is that I don't have a pre-lawsuit shaped ESP explorer. Cause they rock my butt I must say, simply love em'!

Anyhow, people tell me that the guitars are sold in Europe, which is great, since I live in Europe.
That MX-250 you talked about, MetalUpTheAss, where can those be found? I've searched some on the internet, but can't seem to find anyone selling them.

That EXP-400 for under 700 bucks sounds really interesting.. Please do tell me if you have any tip on where I can find a guitar like that.

Thanks



1) Before I help you anymore I'm gonna require pr0n pics of the Explorer collection (I'm a huge explorer fan too)

2) The MX-250 is sold through eBay, I believe it's Katana Guitars that sells them. I'm not sure if there are any on now, but they come up occasionally for a hefty price tag.

3) If you want (near-ESP) quality (But Above LTD and IMO also above Gibson) quality, you should check out Edwards. They're in between LTD Deluxe and ESP in terms of quality, and you can buy them new from Katana for much less than the cost of a MX-250. Example

Be on the look out all over eBay, and ask around at ESP Forums (I'm also MetalUpTheAss there)
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#18
Does this store in Japan have a homepage that is not written in Japanese? :P

If you are wondering I have a budget on about 30.000 Sek, which is, I suppose, about 4.300 US dollars..
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#19
I think it'd cost you alot. ESP custom guitars are very expensive and takes 6 month's to make.

But it all dpeends what kind of music you play, if you play rock, classic rock, and stuff... go for gibson or else, go for a another ESP shape. it's not always the shape that counts its how it sounds!
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#20
4 thousand bucks?

Haha, yeah bro, you can get an MX-250.

And yeah, they do.

http://www.katanaguitars.com/main/top.html


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I think it'd cost you alot. ESP custom guitars are very expensive and takes 6 month's to make.

But it all dpeends what kind of music you play, if you play rock, classic rock, and stuff... go for gibson or else, go for a another ESP shape. it's not always the shape that counts its how it sounds!


The MX-250 is a custom shop made production type instrument. There's no wait if you can find one in stock, which some eBay store (I think it's Katana) usually has. And we've already discussed price and he has the money. And you choose ESP because of quality. It's a custom shop guitar of the highest quality. If you play classic rock you can sell the EMG's for more than enough it'd cost to get lower-output pups put in there.
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#22
Well, I can't thank you enough fellas!
I'll just wait until that Katanastore has an MX-250II in stock =)

Thanks a lot once again!
#23
I'd just check out eBay in general, not just Katana Guitars, because like I said I'm not 100% sure that Katana is the one that deals the MX's
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#24
Ok.

One last question... Do you think it will help to go to a local store that deals with ESP and ask them to order one for me? The guitar does not have to be used.. Actually, I'd prefer it in new condition.. It's about 1500 bucks right?

Thanks
#25
You can't find a new one anymore other than the MX-250, which as I stated goes around 2,000 American dollars, and given that you're in Europe, I think you might be able to find one.
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