#2
Yes you can, although it's a royal pain in the ass. Well, not really. Just detune it, and when the bridge sinks back, loosen the claw screws behind the back plate.
#4
What gauge of string are you currently using and which particular drop tuning u had in mind? Keep in mind that most probably you'd need to adjust the truss rod/action/intonation too.
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#6
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IM USING .9-.42....LIKE I SAID IN THE FIRST PLACE...I TUNE IN d WHICH IS

(C-G-C-F-A-D) FROM LOW TO HIGH

Uhh dude D is D-G-C-F-A-D unless you mean your dropping the low E to a C. then I just made an ass out of myself . I don't See why you would have too much of a problem tuning down though. Take it to one of your friends who has a Floyd and they might be able to show you exactly what to do.
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#7
CGCFAD is drop C, drop D is DADGBE. And you cant use 9s on that, the truss rod's counteract will not be balanced and all sorts of buzzing problems will occur. At least use 10s or 11s for that.
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#11
Cant you read/type properly, i've said that you cant use 9s for that kinda tuning, at least get a 10 or 11.
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#12
oh ok....i probably do need to buy 10's/ 11's.........with the 9's the problem is that the strings r to close to the fretboard so they buzz alot.....i did take it to a friend's house n he has a floyd rose but he is a little retarted
#13
Do you know how to restring one? adjust the spring tension vs string tension? tuning?
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#15
Tuning Floyd Roses are different from tuning regular strat, you'll see. And are you positively sure that you're gonna use this tuning for a long period of time? coz technically, you might need to adjust a lot like i said, action/truss rod/intonation and there's no point of doing this if you're just gonna play 1 song. What guitar do you have btw?
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#16
yes its alot harder ....yes i play on keeping that same tuning because thats the tuning my band uses.... i have tuned my strat to d as well n it sounds great...my plan was to have my strat in standard and have my ibanez rg370dx in d

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#17
Then i guess you better start buying the strings and try one out. I dont recommend you putting to much tension on the bridge of this guitar coz the metal isnt made from what you call a "best quality metal".
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#19
Adjusting The Truss Rod

1) Always make sure that you're in your desired perfect tuning pitch.
2) Measure your neck relief and see whether its proper. Fret the 1st fret low E and the 19th/20th fret where the neck meets the body and see the 8th fretwire. There should be a clearance of at least 0.3mm-0.5mm between the low E and the fretwire.
3) If the string lays dead on the fretboard/fretwires or below 0.3mm (0.2 i still ok IMO), then you'd need to loosen your truss rod. If the string is higher than 0.5mm, then you have to much neck relief, you need to tighten your truss rod.
4) Always tighten or loosen your truss rod in 1/4th of a turn or 1/8th of a turn each time, and let rest between each turn for about 10-20 minutes to let your neck adjust to its new settings.
5) Check your neck relief by performing step#2 again and see whether its proper. Also, make sure that you're still in your desired tuning and re-check every now and then if your tuning runs off.
6) After you've accomplish to let your neck relief to be at least in between 0.3mm and 0.5mm, again, let the neck rest.

Tips:
- You can get extra hands and use a feeler gauge to measure your 8th fretwire or just simply capo the 1st fret. This is for more accurate measurement.
- Important* If your action is too high, that may also be the cause of your neck relief being higher than it should, i suggest that you restore the low E action to its factory setting (normally 2mm-3mm above the 12th fretwire) and measure your neck relief.

Helpful websites:
- http://projectguitar.com/tut/trussadjust.htm
- http://www.jemsite.com/tech/1setup.htm#step3
- http://www.fretnotguitarrepair.com/trussrods.htm


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#20
Tuning Floyd Roses' intonation is really a bitch if you dont have any equipment/experience. Its time consuming and really needs a lot of patient...A LOT. You can get a guitar tech guy to get it done but make sure he knows what he's doing. But once you know how to do it, its really really simple.

This is the thing you should adjust on ur bridge. The little tiny screw below the strings.


This is a special intonation tool for Ibanez Edge tremolo system, sold at stewmac.com


These are the steps on how to properly adjust your intonation on floyd rose system.

Tuning Floyd Rose:
1) Loosen the locking nut
2) Set your fine tuners to middle position
3) Tune up your guitar to standard or whichever tunings u wish. "Cross-tuning" between strings if you want easier. Tune the low E string> A string> low E string again> D string> low E string>A string... and so forth. Keep repeating for all strings. To make it more easier, tune the low E generally a bit sharper or about half step sharper, so that you might not have to repeat crossing the strings again and again.
4) If the floating bridge comes out, loosen the tunings and then tighten the springs in the tremolo cavity at the back, if the bridge sinks, then vice-versa, until the bridge is parallel to the body.
5) Be patient
6) If you're happy with your tunings and your bridge is well centered, lock in the nut
7) Tune again using the fine tuners

Also some tips - You might want to have at least 3 springs and after following the tuning method above, tighten the 2 claw's screw for about 1/8th or 1/4th more. This is to prevent your floating bridge from getting stuck to the knife edges on the posts (action studs) after you bend notes. You can ignore this if your bridge/trem is reliable (e.g. Edge Pro, Edge, ZR, Lo-Pro Edge, Original Floyd Rose, Licenced Floyd Rose by Kahler/Schaller/Gotoh). But still you may face this problem even if your bridge is very good.

Stretch the strings first if they're new

More info on tuning floyd roses - http://www.floydrose.com/originaltremolo.html
Info on changing strings - http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/columns/features/steal_this_video_re-stringing_guitar.html
Picture guide on how to perform the #4 step mentioned above - http://www.fretnotguitarrepair.com/floydrosetremolo.htm
http://www.jemsite.com/tech/1setup.htm#step1

Checking the intonation
1) Check the intonation on each strings and you might want to get a pencil for this. Jot down every sharps or flats on every strings
2) Pick a harmonic at the 12th fret of E and make sure its tuned to your tuning like open E = 12th fret harmonics. Or any downtunings make sure its the same
3) Now fret the 12th fret with normal finger pressure and check wheter its the same with the 12th fret harmonic/open E
4) If the notes of the open note vs. the natural harmonic are different you need to adjust the saddle position
5) Mark the strings that you wish to intonate

Setting the intonation
1) If you dont have the special tool, you need to loosen the string 1 by one and adjust its intonation step by step.
2) Here's the tricky part, your string needs to be properly loosed and you might want to hold it using ur fingers because if the tension is still there, the strings will pull the intonation saddle after you loosen it.
3) Loosen the saddle screw, see your notes that you just jotted, if the fretted note is SHARP, move the saddle AWAY from the neck and vice-versa.
4) You might have to move the saddle quite a bit to realize changes. You can get it really far back, past the bolt's head or washer in fact.
5) There are two bolt positions for adjustments so if there is not enough adjustment in the saddle move saddle further and use the next hole for the intonation lock down screw as you can see on pic below:

Ibanez ILT example Bridge
*there is another hole in front that you can put the saddle screw if the desired intonation isnt proper.
6) Tighten the intonation lock screw firmly taking care not to strip the screw
7) Retune the string and retest fret-12 fretted to the fret-12 natural harmonic
8) This is probably the most sickening step of all. This is a really really by trial and error, so if your desired pitch isnt working, you have to do it again and again and repeat the steps above until its properly intoned.

Really important notes, read this through
- Loosen the strings to make way for the allen/hex wrench to be properly inserted in the saddle screw. AVOID contact with the hex wrench and the strings. I did this once and the string just break....
- The notes at the 12th fret open note vs 12 fret natural harmonic should be in tune with themselves
- Do not touch this because thats the string lock.

If you loosen it the strings will pop out. Same as the Ibanez ILT example Bridge, do not touch the (E) part.

- BE PATIENT, you dont want to get any mental breakdowns
- When loosening the strings, you MUST intonate it 1 by one, and NOT ALL at once. For example, you make sure all ur strings are in tune, then check the ones with messed up intonation and loosen that string ONLY. You loosen it like said, untill you have a clearance for the hex wrench.
- You dont need any wooden blocks or any sorts of blocking mechanism.

Hope this helps, its quite bitching and whatnot so you can save your time (but not ur money) by just sending it to professional tech to be properly setup.

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#22
Hmm, sry i dont have one, but feel free to post up here, im not "always" around but im around.
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#25
Hey Dude Sorry I Took So Long...i Finally Got New Strings... :d Power Slinkies...ernie Ball.....11's....wat Should I Do....i Learned A Few Things...my Guitar's Truss Rod Needs To Be Adjusted....i Think It Is At An Up-bow.....comin 2 The 24th Fret The Strings Are Really High.....wat Should I Do????
#26
How To Adjust The Truss Rod

1) Always make sure that you're in your desired perfect tuning pitch.
2) Measure your neck relief and see whether its proper. Fret the 1st fret low E and the 19th/20th fret where the neck meets the body and see the 8th fretwire. There should be a clearance of at least 0.3mm-0.5mm between the low E and the fretwire.
3) If the string lays dead on the fretboard/fretwires or below 0.3mm (0.2 i still ok IMO), then you'd need to loosen your truss rod. If the string is higher than 0.5mm, then you have to much neck relief, you need to tighten your truss rod.
4) Always tighten or loosen your truss rod in 1/4th of a turn or 1/8th of a turn each time, and let rest between each turn for about 10-20 minutes to let your neck adjust to its new settings.
5) Check your neck relief by performing step#2 again and see whether its proper. Also, make sure that you're still in your desired tuning and re-check every now and then if your tuning runs off.
6) After you've accomplish to let your neck relief to be at least in between 0.3mm and 0.5mm, again, let the neck rest.

Tips:
- You can get extra hands and use a feeler gauge to measure your 8th fretwire or just simply capo the 1st fret. This is for more accurate measurement.
- Important* If your action is too high, that may also be the cause of your neck relief being higher than it should, i suggest that you restore the low E action to its factory setting (normally 2mm-3mm above the 12th fretwire) and measure your neck relief.

Various adjusting tool. Left (Allen Key), Right (Barrel Wrench)


Helpful websites:
- http://projectguitar.com/tut/trussadjust.htm
- http://www.jemsite.com/tech/1setup.htm#step3
- http://www.fretnotguitarrepair.com/trussrods.htm


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#28
Well, the first thing you need to do is stop capitalising every other word

The 11's will have a higher tension than 9's which should pretty much balance out, however my guess is your trem will still be be sitting too low. Have a look at it from the side, if it's set right it should be pretty much parallel with the body. If it's sitting forward then you need to increase the spring tension by tightening the screws in the tremelo cavity. Don't do them too much, jusr 1/4 at a time until it's right. If it's sitting to far back then you need to decrease the tension by loosening the springs.

You probably also need to adjust the height of the bridge with the using the allen key in the tremelo post holes - it's common to have the action just above the point where the strings are buzzing and fretting out.

You can check your neck relief by capoing or fretting the 1st fret and fretting at the 24th fret. Then chech the gap around the 7th fret. If there's a significant gap you've got a forward bow and the truss rod will need tightening slightly, only about 1/8 of a turn. Bear in mind that it's easy to screw your guitar up messing with the truss rod, so if you're not 100% confident take it to a shop!
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#30
Well, this is what you're checking to find out, although from the sounds of it you're bridge needs to be lowered a bit.
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#32
How To Adjust The Truss Rod


Hey, yours is WAY better than mine....you have cool pictures n'everything!

I reckon the bridge is set to high, and the tremelo spring tension may be a bit off, but most likely everything else is fine...what you reckon?
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#34
hmmm...n how do i lower this???...sorry for all the questions...im just new to floyd roses so idk how to fix the bridge...at all


You're guitar should have come with (amongst other things) a fat allen key with a stumpy end - this is the one you use for adjusting the bridge height. There should be two holes at either side of the bridge at the edge nearest the neck.
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#35
adjust these 2 screws using appropriate allen key
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#37
works just like normal screw principal, if you want it lower, tighten it, vice-versa.
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#38
adjust these 2 screws using appropriate allen key

You're obviously putting far more thought into this than I am...more pictures!

I really wish there's been somehting like this around when I was starting...I got most of my advice from a mate who'd been playing about 2 months longer than me, and he was pants!
He told me to use thin picks so you could play faster, the fiend.
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#39
thanx u to for all your help....when i was attempting to do this....i looked at bridge...that mutha ****er was so high....i lowered the tension....on the back of the guitar i tightened the spring n it seems to work fine!!!!!! thanx u madpickin03 and steven seagull