#1
Hi guys do you know any song or band that uses Single Coils and still sound heavy ??
I'm tryin to convince myself to buy a Strat......

All I got is, John 5, Yngwie, Chris Impellitteri (I'm not sure though)................

Help me !!
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#2
Iron maiden's 3 guitarists, but i don't think that's particularly heavy. it is metal though.
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#3
kirk hammett during ...and justice sessions? he had a esp strat setup at one stage.
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#5
Don't mind about bands. Just make sure your coils hum as little as possible, or buy a Maiden signature strat/Standard strat with noiseless singles liek Hot Rails. Yeah, it's your best bet.
I myself prefer the humbuckies much more though.
#6
i forget his name but the guy who played for Rage Against The Machine and Audioslave he only uses single coils and Kirk Hammet records most of his solos with a fender strat
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#7
All those guys use either hot-rails or stacked humbuckers. Stacked 'buckers have 2 coils, but only one is used for picking up sound, the other one is a lot smaller and just reduces hum, great option if you want single coil tone minus the buzz, Ynwie uses them in all of his strats.
#8
but yngwie isnt heavy, why did u say all you could find was yngwie cos hes anythin but heavy, lol
#9
i wouldn't call yngwie light.

i would say single coils are great for soloing, and scaling. some might even go as far as to say they are better than hummers for this cause they accentuate treble frequencies better.

but for rythm, hummers are hard to beat, even your stacked singles might not give you that hummer fullness you get from overly distorted thrash or watever. That said you can always get sc sized hummers so thats fine, the real issue with this topic is rather about the body.

Would i be right in saying that most strats have a maple body? or am i way off? mahog or a denser tone wood might give you a darker tone so start from there. a mahog or alder strat might be the answer here.

I'd say the attack on a bolt on is supposed to be marginally better than a set neck so once again a strat is really a soloing beast, as opposed to a heavy rythm guitar.
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#10
i think john 5 has humbuckers in his tele. anyway, if you plan to use lots of distortion then regular single coils will hum a lot, but you can get noiseless SC or a hot rail if you want a strat (or you can get a HSS strat)...
EDIT: strat is usually alder or ash (both bright woods, ash is brighter), have maple necks, and maple or rosewood freatboard.
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#11
i would say that due to the fact that strats commonly use brighter woods, they wouldn't be suitable as a heavy guitar, but as a soloing guitar they are still up there.
Marty
#12
Daron malakian from system of a down.. he used a strat in a live video of Soil in a club one time before system were big..i think i still have the video..it was Suite pee live
#13
YNWGIE USES A STACKED HUM in his strat....
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i would say that due to the fact that strats commonly use brighter woods, they wouldn't be suitable as a heavy guitar, but as a soloing guitar they are still up there.

yea, you're right... altough you could change the pickups and use some dark sounding amp (maybe a bass amp... ) and it could get heavy. amp is more important for tone than guitar...
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#15
Tony Iommi

Before Sabbth he used a Strat, but broke during their first recording it broke, so he used his SG. This SG was a SG Special which ahs P-90's and i saw he hasn't changed them, so most Black Sababth stuff are recorded with P-90's!
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#19
Any song by the Bled. One of the guitarists uses a Tele, its not a stock Tele pickup, but it is a single coil.
#20
The only time kirk hammett use the strat was maybe the 90's metallica era. Which no one liked that much. But some songs on like the black album kirked recorded with his ESP signature M series guitar. All his old stuff like Killem all and RTL was with his rip-off copy flying v gibson.

Dunno about Puppets though...,he used the jackson flying v right Or did they get sponsored by ESP real quick?
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#21
Kirk Hammett
Iron Maiden (the 2 harmonic leads not the rythm)
Tom Morello (i think thats how you spell it)
Hendrix had some heavy souding stuff

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#22
its not the pickups, its how you play!

Kurt Cobain(Jazzmasters,Jaguars,telecasters), the Guitarist from Audiovent(Jazzmasters), Tom Morello and Jimmy Page(Telecaster) all use(d) single coils for recording quite often and proved that the only thing with single coils is that you need to play in minor keys, or with a load of distortion to be heavy sounding (not that the first 2 have the heaviest songs lyrically but who's counting?). Its the player more than the pickup. I play stuff like Guns and Roses, Children of Bodom and Iron Maiden on Strats and Teles! And I get a good sound believe it or not! Sure it hums a bit, but to compensate I just pick further from the bridge. Trust me, if you have decent picking technique you can sound heavy on anything. Oh yeah, creative distortion pedal settings help too, but are not necessary.
#23
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but yngwie isnt heavy, why did u say all you could find was yngwie cos hes anythin but heavy, lol



He uses alot of gain, its heavy. And melodic minor.

Metal is heavy, and he is neoclassical metal. Which to alot of people isnt really a genre, although it is one in my book, actually sub genre.
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its not the pickups, its how you play!

Kurt Cobain(Jazzmasters,Jaguars,telecasters), the Guitarist from Audiovent(Jazzmasters), Tom Morello and Jimmy Page(Telecaster) all use(d) single coils for recording quite often and proved that the only thing with single coils is that you need to play in minor keys, or with a load of distortion to be heavy sounding (not that the first 2 have the heaviest songs lyrically but who's counting?). Its the player more than the pickup. I play stuff like Guns and Roses, Children of Bodom and Iron Maiden on Strats and Teles! And I get a good sound believe it or not! Sure it hums a bit, but to compensate I just pick further from the bridge. Trust me, if you have decent picking technique you can sound heavy on anything. Oh yeah, creative distortion pedal settings help too, but are not necessary.



If you have a good effects pedal/gain pedal then your set. I can get a good distortion sound out of my acoustic guitar when its plugged in.
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but yngwie isnt heavy, why did u say all you could find was yngwie cos hes anythin but heavy, lol


yes he is yngwie is a fatass
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#26
Well if you class some of the Pumpkins stuff as heavy Billy Corgan used single coils on that.
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#27
maiden use fat strats, that is all.
I'd say the heavier tones with single coils is when tom morrello uses his neck single coil for some riffin.
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#29
First of all almost every single guitarist you names doesnt use "single coils" they use single coil sized humbers, stacked coils, rails, so and so. You see thaeres many ways they make singles coils as heavy, if not heavier than humbuckers. Just standard single coils from liek a strat cannot sound very heavy. So basically do what everyone else did and replace the pickups. BTW iron maiden doesnt use single coils. They have strats with humbuckers, Unless your talking about from like the 90s to now they do use rail single coils now.
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#30
Mikael Akerfeldt from Opeth has used Strats on heavy recordings (as heard in parts of Blackwater Park, Still LIfe, MAYH), and Nile used to have some single-coil-ation.
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#31
Mikael Akerfeldt from Opeth has used Strats on heavy recordings (as heard in parts of Blackwater Park, Still LIfe, MAYH), and Nile used to have some single-coil-ation.
-Mike
#32
What's so wrong with a fat strat or hotrails?
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Hi guys do you know any song or band that uses Single Coils and still sound heavy ??
I'm tryin to convince myself to buy a Strat......

All I got is, John 5, Yngwie, Chris Impellitteri (I'm not sure though)................

Help me !!



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#34
Most strats are alder. They have a bright tone which is why thier not very dark. Most single coils have less output also.
#35
Wintersun. He used a telecaster on the album.
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I Would never get any type of fender, just dont like them.
Same with any electric gibson. I'm not forming some rebellion
against big name brands haha.

So to the TS, dont force yourself to get one cuz some loser said, you suck cuz you dont have a strat.
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I'm tryin to convince myself to buy a Strat......


well you're not very specific...

if all you want is a strat, why dont u get a carvin strat. choose a heavy wood, something with at least one full sized humbucker.

if you mean that you want to try to get heavy tones out of an SSS fender strat, then make sure ur amp can handle those tones, and look at models that come with high output pups.

like said, mini humbuckers like hot rails or dimarzio stacked pickups fit in a single coil space. they dont sound exactly like full sized humbuckers but can give u a higher output.
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#38
Ah ......... I'm gettin Dinkys anyway/
Tone is all ...... well probably 75%, in your fingers.
The rest depends on your wallet's thickness !!

Keep the faith, baby!!