Just want o write a song in a minor key so I checked what they're made up of:

Tone = T SemiTone = s

T s T T s T s

2 1 2 2 1 2 1

This works fine for C:

C minor

C D Eb F G Ab Bb C

But I tried to build A minor and B minor and it didn't work...

A minor

A B C D E F G A#

B Minor

B C# D E F# G A A#

Surely these should end in A and B respectively, What have I done wrong here, I've only followed the formula.
well, a harmonic minor goes tone, semitone, tone, tone, semitone, minor 3rd, semitone.

so C harmonic minor is C, D, Eb, F, G, Ab, B, C

A harmonic minor is A, B, C, D, E, F, G#, A

B harmonic minor is B, C#, D, E, F#, G, A#, B

get it?
well thats where I was going wrong, the article i read on it must've had it wrong, so what is a minor 3rd in terms of frets? in relation to tone, semitone?
i better make sure the chords were right as well then is it...

Min, Dim, Maj, Min, Min, Maj, Maj, Min

um, strictly speaking, the chords would be... minor, diminished, augmented, minor, major, major, diminished.
You'll probably find it alot more effecient to use a scale degree formula in relation to the major scale...

Harmonic Minor Scale formula: [B]1 - 2 - b3 - 4 - 5 - b6 - 7[/B].

Harmonic Minor Chords: [B]i - ii° - bIII+ - iv - V - bVI - vii°[/B].

The scale you described in your first post (C D Eb F G Ab Bb C) is the C natural minor scale, not the C harmonic minor scale.

         C Major Scale: [B]C - D - E - F - G - A - B[/B].
Harmonic Minor formula: [B]1 - 2 - b3 - 4 - 5 - b6  - 7[/B].
C Harmonic Minor scale: [B]C - D - Eb - F - G - Ab - B[/B].

See.. ? And just a heads up, this would get a lot more replies and information if you'd have posted it in the Musicians Talk forum.
Last edited by Johnljones7443 at Sep 12, 2006,