#1
What do you guys think is Jeff Beck and Allan Holdsworth's most complex songs/solos?
#2
Dunno why you grouped these two together like this...

But I'd say Scatterbrain is one of Beck's most complex songs. Well at least thats the first one that comes to mind. But pretty much anything off Blow by Blow or Wired could also go here..
#4
Useless in some opions but if he wants a challenge and has fun with it. I'd say everything from beck cause he has a very different guitar approach then alot of guitarplayers. Holdworth same deal. You need to get their techniques down before trying any of their songs really.

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#5
^has anyone told you that a Cmaj7add9 would simply be called Cmaj9?
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lol i've been told but a Cmaj9 wouldn't always have the 7th in and i mean it as in a sweep you sweep a maj7th and a D-note tap. But this is off topic

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lol i've been told but a Cmaj9 wouldn't always have the 7th in and i mean it as in a sweep you sweep a maj7th and a D-note tap. But this is off topic


... But a Cmaj9 without the 7th would be a Cmajadd9, not a Cmaj7add9
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#11
That's right but on guitar You can't play a Full on thirteenth chord but you don't name all the alteration's in the chord name if they are not played do you?

As in a C13 Chord you usually leave out 5th or root if bass play's it or any alteration that doesn't affect the chord if other instruments cover it up but it's stil called a C13 then isn't it?

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#12
, you're not digging yourself out of this one

And actually, you CAN play a "full on" 13th chord
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#13
FFS people it's not that big of a deal. Just let it go. >_>
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FFS people it's not that big of a deal. Just let it go. >_>


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#15
Yeah, but it's not a big deal.

Who cares if he's wrong on some theory that means nothing in his title?

Sheesh....
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Yeah, but it's not a big deal.

Who cares if he's wrong on some theory that means nothing in his title?

Sheesh....


Well, you, apparently... Noone's making a big deal, so stop making it a big deal!
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#17
ok????


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#19
lol that's what I said it's off topic but if he wants to argue about it I don't mind

But how can you play a Full on 13th chord on a standard guitar and no cheating like simultaenously playing

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Cheating like simultaneous playing?
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#21
yeah I mean you know what I mean you tell me a way how the chord is played and no sneaky ways or trick like doubleneck guitars or something.

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#22
I'm sorry, all that needs done is a little bit of 2 handed chordage on a 7 string.

Or, rather sneakily, hit a semi-harmonic to grab the root and 5th (or, if you're man enough, any realistic chord tone at all - including 3rds in just intonation ) and just finger the rest of the chord on a 6 string. Not too tricky.

And to be honest, this thread is bollox. Harmonically, technically, melodically, structurally or rhythmically complex? Which forms of complexity have the highest weighting? What about live versions with extended improv? Or studio instruments that couldnt be used live? Etc etc etc etc...
#23
Yeah that's what i said first get some of his techniques etc. down before even trying one of their songs

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