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#1
does anybody know any videos on you tube or any good advice on whammy bar tricks and things like dive bombs (i think thats what theyre called)??

plus i was wondering if anybody could find a dragonforce video on you tube that teaches you how to do the pacman sound and stuff cause i saw it before but i cant find it now
#4
Theres a good Dimebag one knocking about.

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#5
dimebag squeals!!!!
theres a video on youtube ill dig up, works better if you have a floyd rose with a tremolo cavity (also helps if you use a dime ml USA like me)
#7
ideally u need a floating trem bridge. if u sound a harmonic then slowly and smoothly dip the whammy bar youll get an even divebomb. for the really crazy squels go for harmonics on the 2nd and 3rd frets. theyre hard to hit but sound amazing
#8
If you want to do things like diveboming etc, i would recommend getting a locking trem because otherwise your guitar is going to be out of tune in a matter of minutes.
#9
How the hell can you hit those harmonics on the 3rd fret? I've never been able to do it.
#10
just experiment with where you need to put your finger relative to the fret. usually it works best if you're right over top of it but i find some frets you need to move around slightly. also make sure you're using a light touch on the string with you fretting finger.
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#11
Quote by YYZ
How the hell can you hit those harmonics on the 3rd fret? I've never been able to do it.


Lots of accuracy, lots of gain, and good pickups. I can nail harmonics up and down the neck with my setup, but if I play on my friend's guitar and amp (POS Dean Playmate gear) those 3rd fret harmonics are weak as hell.

EDIT: ^ He gave a pretty good description. Use a very light touch, and play over/just near the fret wire.

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dimebag squeals!!!!
theres a video on youtube ill dig up, works better if you have a floyd rose with a tremolo cavity (also helps if you use a dime ml USA like me)


That's because the damn cavity is routed like two inches deep.
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#12
If you tune standard there is a E# (YES E# not F......) harmonic between the second and third frets on the G'string.... Its not all that hard to hit either....
#13
^ E# is an F you twat . But seriously, google it, I found some website with a lot of videos with tricks.

EDIT: Here is the site http://www.sputnikmusic.com/lesson.php?lessonid=184
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#14
Quote by sheumack111
If you tune standard there is a E# (YES E# not F......) harmonic



That might keep me laughing till xmas
#15


Poor sheumack. Come on guys, we've all said things like that at one point or another. That doesn't mean it's not funny though... damn!
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#16
It wasnt when he first said E# that made me laugh it was that he put after it "(YES E# not F......)" That bit just cracked me up.

Sorry bro, didnt mean to make fun of you no hard feelings eh................come on you must see the funny side of it tho
#17
The 3rd fret harmonic is actually at the location "fret 2.6" but you can hit some weaker ones right over the 3rd fret fretwire as well.
#18
Oh, it's funny. Nothing major though. I had to take my friend aside after he kept trying to sound knowledgable in conversation by referring to "sharp thirds" with the utmost confidence.

"It's called a fourth, dude."

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#19
Have any of you idiots heard of quater tones?? Thats what E# is....... Its used heaps on sitars and stuff......
#20
if i could video it and show you i would......... i dont have a video camera or web cam however
#21
^ Yes, but E# is F.
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#22
on my les paul its like 3mm from the fretwire of the third fret, on my strat its a bit closer....... Try and find it......
#24
theres a B#/Cb aswell.... ill find it later..... The only way you can find them is via harmonics.......
#25
Here you go, I think you need to learn about pitch. HINT: Look at the keys. Also, I know what you mean dude, but it isn't called E#.
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#26
did anyone one find the pacman thing. i actually want to see that.
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#27
Its on the video of Herman Li doing video game tricks. Search for Herman Li on YouTube.
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#28
Western music bases its tonality on a 12 note octave.... This is what all of you guys belive, you dont belive that there is other music other then western. Eastern music uses 24 notes per octave.... Most people cant comprehend the fact this, eg quater tones...... It might not be called E# to an indian sitar player but thats what i call it..
#29
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Its on the video of Herman Li doing video game tricks. Search for Herman Li on YouTube.


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#31
hold your guitar iun the air by the whammy bar
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#32
I wouldn't try that one, it's a pretty risky move that could result in serious damage.
#33
The most that could happen is you break a string.
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#34
Quote by sheumack111
Have any of you idiots heard of quater tones?? Thats what E# is....... Its used heaps on sitars and stuff......


No, E# is enharmonic to F. A quarter tone between E and F is neither E nor F nor E# nor Fb. It's between.
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#35
News to sheumack, For your information, Making a note sharp means raising it a half step. Therefore, E# is E plus 1 half step, which is the equivelant of F. E raised 1 quarter tone is not an E#.

As for whammy bar tricks, if you get a really steady, high pitched feedback that kind of sounds like a natural harmonic (works best when standing by your amp with high gain), turn on your wah (works with my standard crybaby), and then start wah-ing it back and forth kind of slowly while steadily going up and down on your whammy bar, not too far down. You can get some cool effects doing it like that.
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#36
Sorry, but I'm going to get all technical here....

Yes, Eastern music uses more than just the twelve notes that we in the Western world have traditionally used. Given that, yes, there are things like quarter tones. They are notated differently, and follow similar conventions, but not the same conventions. Yes, a sharp/flat raises/lowers a note by a semitone - not a quarter tone.

For most practical purposes, E# and F are considered enharmonic equivalents and are thought of as generally the same note. That is because guitars, keyboards, etc. are tuned with a certain mathematical compromise that allows playing in any given key with what amounts to acceptable intonation. The truth is, though, that there ARE compromises - they are not mathematically in perfect tune.

In a given key... say A major.... you will have certain notes sharped. Let's pick the C# which is the third. I pick that one because it is usually the thirds that "shift" the most from key to key. Sure, C# is "equal" to Db, but if I was playing in the key of Bbm, I would need to use a Db for my third. The difference between that Db and the C# I played in the first scale would be a few cents apart. A singer or violinist will use his/her ear to compensate for those differences, as they are NOT EXACTLY the same note. A pianist is unable to compensate. He/She has only one key on the piano capable of playing either of those notes. It will be pitched somewhere in between as a compromise.

A lot of classical guitar players re-tune between each piece. This is partly because of the physical properties of nylon strings where they need tuned more frequently, but also partly because it allows the guitarist to compensate for differences in tuning as he/she changes from the key of one piece to the key of another. It might only require tuning one or two strings a couple of cents either way, but it will be enough to make that G# slightly different than the Ab in the last piece..... of if the last key was in the key of Dm, and this one is in G#, allowing for the difference in pitch between F and E#.

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#37
Quote by SGStrummer61
The most that could happen is you break a string.


Somebody on these boards told me they bent the actual bar from trying to pull that off, it seems like my bridge would just rip out if I tried that,
#38
Oh come on, doing it on the third fret is the hard way, but above the middle pickup or around there (if you dont have one) is a much better way....
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#39
Quote by sheumack111
Western music bases its tonality on a 12 note octave.... This is what all of you guys belive, you dont belive that there is other music other then western. Eastern music uses 24 notes per octave.... Most people cant comprehend the fact this, eg quater tones...... It might not be called E# to an indian sitar player but thats what i call it..


then youre pretty much wrong because E# is an enharmoic of F and is used instead of F in certain keys.
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