#1
OK, I was looking around and these are the 2 amps I have narrowed it down to! I know the laney is a head but I can easily get a 2x12 cabnet for it!

I play alot of Chili's so cleans are VERY important, and then I play alot of Medium/high gain punk and a nice bit of metal..I also gig regulary so endurence is important and the gigs are reletivly big.

So what Im asking which amp would best suit my needs...
#2
Did'nt you ask a similar question last week?
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#5
I would try them both out.
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#6
GH, I'd say.

But what do I know, I'm a Laney fanboy.
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#7
Quote by rockers73
I would try them both out.

I would, but I cant... Their is no Laney Specialists around


Quote by Resiliance
GH, I'd say.

But what do I know, I'm a Laney fanboy.

Have you played it? if so, what are its cleans like?
#8
Quote by False_God
I would, but I cant... Their is no Laney Specialists around


Have you played it? if so, what are its cleans like?


Better than the cleans the Marshall has, definitely, imo

Maybe this'll give you a little heads up as to what it sounds like on the clean-breakup point: /Andy Timmons' version of Little wing (recorded on a VH100R, but the clean chan and disto is very alike, only one channel it's also very responsive to volume knob changes on your guitar (as in decreasing gain, as demonstrated here Paul Gilbert's version of Highway Chile

I love my GH50L. You might also want to check Opeth as both of their guitarists use the GH/VH series, one the GH100 (also Paul Gilbert's staple amp), one the VH100R (also Mattias IA Eklundh and Andy Timmons before Resolution when he switched over to Mesa/Boogie).

Also, the GH is all-tube, the AVT isn't... Which leads to a pretty obvious conclusion.
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#9
i would say the laney with an atenuator *spelling*

100watt master volume is gonna hurt...as in pain hurt...like blood
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#10
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i would say the laney with an atenuator *spelling*

100watt master volume is gonna hurt...as in pain hurt...like blood


Yeah, you definitely want to go with the 50w version and depending on your situation maybe an attenuator.
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#11
threadstarter ... it may be worth getting a gh instead of the TI - even though the GH is a touch more expensive it has a better reputation for a tonal variety.
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#12
Quote by suicidalmoose
threadstarter ... it may be worth getting a gh instead of the TI - even though the GH is a touch more expensive it has a better reputation for a tonal variety.


Oh yeah, damn, I missed the TI!

I like the regular GH's more than the TI's.
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#13
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Yeah, you definitely want to go with the 50w version and depending on your situation maybe an attenuator.

Ya I'd get the GH-50l instead of the GH-100 TI...


How does the one channel work on it? with the gain situation like?
#14
I tried a dsl401 combo with active emgs and to be honest it didint really impress me much or blow me away. i think ud prolly have a better chance with the laney. but there are many amps in tht price range on places like ebay.

U myt be better doing what im doing. traveling and trying out lots of amps to see which you like best before you buy one. just a suggestion
#15
Im set on The Laney GH-50L, but the Marshall Keeps getting in the way..lol...
#16
Quote by False_God
Ya I'd get the GH-50l instead of the GH-100 TI...


How does the one channel work on it? with the gain situation like?


Well, like I said, the thing I like about it is you can go from metal to ballad cleans only by using your volume knob on your guitar.

And honestly, the AVT is ****.
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#17
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Well, like I said, the thing I like about it is you can go from metal to ballad cleans only by using your volume knob on your guitar..
Sorry to sound sorta retarded but I sorta dont get that?
#18
When your volume pot is on 10, the distortion is full on. The more you roll it down towards 0, the less gain is being used, not even touching the amp.
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#20
I know this isn't one of the options but try an ENGL, superb cleans and can handle lots of overdrive if you ever want to have mild/brutal distortion.
#21
I check, they are a bit too much over my price range..thats tho for the sugestion..I'll give another look for one!!
#22
Quote by False_God
but would their not be a loss in sound?


No, the highs will roll off a bit unless you wire it so it doesn't... Which is basically soldering one wire - piece of cake. Volume is more or less the same.
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#23
^btw he was talking about the DSL, not the AVT
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#24
Quote by Resiliance
No, the highs will roll off a bit unless you wire it so it doesn't... Which is basically soldering one wire - piece of cake. Volume is more or less the same.

So I wont have to do any soldering? Theirs a gain footswith that comes with this..woyld that activate the gain like a normal ch. Select?
#25
Ok Im more for the laney Gh-50L and will be ordering it next week, but before I do my bro found the VC-30 212. and he was telling me that, that would be a good choice. Anyone care to comment on that amp?
#26
The VC is a Vox AC knock off AFAIK and is much more suited to classic rock tones, here's a suggestion - go to youtube.com and type in laney Gh50 and Laney VC30 - i did find some GH50 video clips on their b4 (it took a bit of searching, so it might not be as easy as searching laney gh50, try just searching for laney and scrolling through the results).

Gh50 more modern, you get your modern cleans and modern distortion - quite marshally if you get it with the EL's. the VC is more classic, you get that classic rock tone, probably do things like ACDC really well, not sure on what the gain is like when it's maxed out sorry.

edit:
BTW - not sure if this question got answred, but the footswitch that comes with the GH that activates the gain boost is more of an overdrive feature, like if you wanted to bust a solo in or get over the top distortion, but otherwise gain is still controlled by the volume control on the guitar (volume control on guitar changes guitar output, and amp responds to this output by driving it's tubes less/more).
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#27
I just bought a Laney GH100L, I'm not very experenced with it. but here are my observations:

I love the sound, i can get hard rock sounds out of the amp that i couldn't find with my Mesa Nomad.

The downside to the Laney is the single channel, just ins't much room for different tones, where as the Marshall's i was checking out had a few channels.

The Laney does get better cleans than the Marshall, but not as good as my Mesa-i'll find a way to use both during a show.

One feature i do like the the 'distortion' option. Next to your gain you can flip a switch and a second 'layer' of gain may be added, while the switch is off it still effects your tone, but not as much.

all in all i'm happy with my Laney, i'm still debating what cab i want to put it under full time, i'll have to make that decision quickly.
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#28
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^btw he was talking about the DSL, not the AVT


Oh yeah, my bad, I ment the DSL.
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#29
Quote by Resiliance
Oh yeah, my bad, I ment the DSL.

anyway..thats not the point....I think Im gonna get the GH-50L then...if it is used by opeth for cleans it should be good...and I could always run a Ts-9 if i need that more heavy sound! Thanks guys!
#30
The GH has all the gain you'll need.
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#31
Quote by suicidalmoose
The VC is a Vox AC knock off AFAIK and is much more suited to classic rock tones, here's a suggestion - go to youtube.com and type in laney Gh50 and Laney VC30 - i did find some GH50 video clips on their b4 (it took a bit of searching, so it might not be as easy as searching laney gh50, try just searching for laney and scrolling through the results).


Thanks, I searched and I got to hear the cleans and distortion and was very impressed!

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edit:
BTW - not sure if this question got answred, but the footswitch that comes with the GH that activates the gain boost is more of an overdrive feature, like if you wanted to bust a solo in or get over the top distortion, but otherwise gain is still controlled by the volume control on the guitar (volume control on guitar changes guitar output, and amp responds to this output by driving it's tubes less/more).

Ok, this sounds stupid but I have to ask you, if I was playing some thing like "One" by Metallica where their are alot of transactions between O.d and clean would i have to keep turning up and down the volume to get o.d and clean? Or would the pedal do that? (sorry for sounding stupid and all)
#32
^Like I said man, you could do what I do, just use the volume knob on your guitar to go from distortion to clean, though you'll never get pristine clean (just like you'll never get pristine clean sounds on a tube amp on high volume).
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#33
I would go for the Laney as well.
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