#1
How do the black metal bands get such crappy production quality?? i've always wondered. And just so im not spamming, discuss your thoughts and feelings on bad production quality.
#2
They use bad mikes and bad mixers?

That's generally what gives bands bad sound production quality.

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#4
I think that some black metal bands do it on purpose to make the sound a little more "edgy", but don't quote me on it.
#6
its because they arent really focusing on making it mainstream...they record it for listeners who can respect the fact that its black metal and not care how the production sounds. and they dont purposly do it...they jut dont bother making it perfect
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#7
Umm...it's a lot easier to have bad quality than good quality. They just use cheap recorders. It's not like they pay 10000$ for a studio and then say "okay now take what we recorded and make it sound bad."
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#8
i think they take a strat copy, with a 15 watt amp and play it through a phone so it records on to the answering machine. tell me if im wrong..
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#10
its all a part of the elaborate black metal gimick. its not about whether or not they want to make it sound good cuz no equipment sounds that ****ty, demo albums mde for like 10 cents sound better. theres no doubt in my mind the do it on purpose. its just a part of the music as with the scratchy vocals, make up, imagery.
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#11
I would just like to note, that the kvltest my band ever got (we were basically hardrock), was when we recorded a few songs in a garage, on a talkboy,

As for bad production, I think sometimes it can come in handy. Terrible production? No, but, for example, on Emperor's "In the Nightside Eclipse" the production is far from perfect, but I think its great, and gives off a great atmosphere. Same goes for a band like Summoning. Really crap production, where its muddy, or just fuzzy or whatever, is just kinda dumb though personally.
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#13
Ujum, take for example Limbonic Art's Moon In The Scorpio, the classic of classics and has not so good production.
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#14
personally i hate music with bad production for some reason thats wut turns me away from a lot of black metal, the production hurts my ears
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#15
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personally i hate music with bad production for some reason thats wut turns me away from a lot of black metal, the production hurts my ears


It takes some getting used to, for sure. I used to hate it, but after listening to stuff with gradually worse production, I stopped caring. Early Emperor is a good place to start personally, definitely not perfect production, but by no means terrible either. Really allows you to get used to it, and be able to get into other bands with not as good production.

Good thread BTW
#16
^ thanks ^
Personally I enjoy the bad production quality, something a la Darkthrone, and thats why i was asking.
#17
I find that "bad" production sounds fantastic(when done right). It enhances the overall sense of darkness/atmosphere/obscurity, blah blah blah.
#18
Ever heard of Ildjarn, in forest poetry its the worst quality ever, yet is one of the best albulms i've ever heard. I can't describe it here, but its just one of the crazy albulms ever, and i love his vocals. The bad production is what helps it drive forward, making it a sweet albulm, (he like recorded under powerlines or something to get that sound right?) its the worst quality recording evah though.
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#19
Poor production ist krieg. Treble at 11, bass and mid at -10, using kitchen ware as a drum kit, recorded from a jam session in your mom's garage with a 50 year old half working mic, that gets recorded so quiet that you have to turn your stereo all the way up to hear it at normal volume ist uber krieg.

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#20
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Ever heard of Ildjarn, in forest poetry its the worst quality ever, yet is one of the best albulms i've ever heard. I can't describe it here, but its just one of the crazy albulms ever, and i love his vocals. The bad production is what helps it drive forward, making it a sweet albulm, (he like recorded under powerlines or something to get that sound right?) its the worst quality recording evah though.



I've only heard a few Ildjarn songs, but they were brilliant.
#21
You want bad production then listen to some Les Legion Noir bands. Sepecifically the one whic recorded their music with a microphone that was inserted into a dead rat. The band is called Mogoutre. Although it turns out after looking for that page they are Dark Ambient not BM but Vlad Tepes releases are terrible quality anyway so it still counts.
#22
personally I can't stand bad production. So much so that I don't listen to bands that have it. So so production like Tomb of the Mutilated or something is ok, but some of the really crappy stuff I'll never get into.
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#23
BM would be so much better for the ears if they went to an actual studio to record instead of recording with a school P.A. system.

I guess it's for the feel of BM, to make it more dreary and what not.
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#24
I much prefer the sound of slick production but I won't not listen to a band because of bad production. They just don't get listened to as much is all.
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The reason BM had such bad production was because DM had such a slick sound.


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#29
because i don't think they give a crap about whining fans and i don't think they care about the profit
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#30
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because i don't think they give a crap about whining fans and i don't think they care about the profit



yea, its all about the music, not fame [thinks back to when darkthrone refused that award....]
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#31
Good production > bad production. I don't buy into the whole "lets have bad production for atmosphere" bullcrap. If they wanted atmosphere, wouldn't it make more sense to have better production? To me, atmosphere comes more from the actual music (melodies, chord progressions, etc.) than the production, and having bad production covers the music.

That said, I understand it if the album has bad production because they band can't get anything better.
#32
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Good production > bad production. I don't buy into the whole "lets have bad production for atmosphere" bullcrap. If they wanted atmosphere, wouldn't it make more sense to have better production? To me, atmosphere comes more from the actual music (melodies, chord progressions, etc.) than the production, and having bad production covers the music.

That said, I understand it if the album has bad production because they band can't get anything better.

Nah, if BM bands would record w/ good production, then the atmosphere would be lost, sometimes, not always.
#33
At first, the bad production came from a lack of funds. Now, some bands do it on purpose by cutting everything but the mids.