#1
Ok, so, I have been playing guitar for 2 years now using a Fender Frontman 15W I belive, and am now looking into buying a new amp. I have narowed it down to four choices, and could use some help wieghing pros and cons and choosing one.

First is the Line 6 Spider II 210 Combo
It seems that the Line 6's have taken alot of ridecule on the forums, but when I explained my situation to my guitar teacher, who has a 9 year Sam Ash employment history and is an amazing guitarist, he was the first to recommend the Spider series to me, and he himself uses various Line 6 products.

Next is the Marshalls. Either the MG30DFX-Combo (less expensive) or the AVT20X 20W 1x10 Combo
Alot of people seem to support these.

Finally the Vox Valvetronix AD30VT 30W Combo
The VTs seem to also have a lot of support

I want to mainly use the amp for jam sessions and a gig here and there eventually. I am into mostly punk rock, metal, and classic rock. Any help would be appreciated.
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#2
Personally, I like the sound of the VOX over the others you've listed. Anyone will be good quality. It all comes down to what sounds best to you. Sit down and put each to the test.
#3
frontman probably has a better tone than all of them in my opinion any chance you could save up a little more and purchase something that will benefit you more in the future? but if not...best to try em...ADVT would get my vote if your hearts on getting a new amp....but it doesnt have the same Crunch as a frontman does so be warned if thats what you want.
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#4
If I were to save up for a higher end amp (probally 500-600 max at my current expieirence/capabilities), what would you recommend then?
#6
I stupidly bought a BOSS Distortion 1 Stomp box, which is not even as good as the one built in to the amp. I am quite uneducated in the world of stomp boxes, pedals, wah wahs, boards and gizza-ma-whats-its, so any knowledge on those areas would be greatly appreciated as well, I would love to know what kind of...thing...I could use (and how) to do whatever you may recomend I do to make playing coler or what-not, becuase I am also thinkign about purchasing some kind of..."thing"...to do..whatever it may do.
#7
All the amps you listed are horrible. Cept the Vox, which is a decent amp, but i hate it. The vox may work for you, not really for metal though.
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#8
The vox has a single preamp tube, thats why they call it "valvetronix" or whatever. I have heard from serveral people that this does basically nothing at all, and from playing one, it is my personal opinion that it doesn't, either.

If your looking at a small practice amp, maybe look at the Vox DA15. 15W solid-state amp, works perfectly well for practice, lessons and playing by yourself. IMO it has a very good range of available variations of distortion, such as blues/crunch/hi-gain/etc, and it will cost about $160 from MF.

In MY (keyword there people) it is a very good and reliable practice amp, if that is what you are looking for then your good. If your looking to do small gigs/live performances then you will want to save up some money and get a good tube combo or something.
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#10
Neither, theyre horrible amps. Dont even waste your time with them. Go with the Vox before those two.
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#11
Well unless you support that with some fact, I have no reason to care about that statement.
#12
Line 6 Spider. Horrible distortion, breaks up, very digital, fuzzy, bad cleans, built in effects are HORRID, sounds like (theres not a word to describe this bad) BAD when its turned up loud. Just an all around bad amp. (Its the #1 worst amp Ive ever played)

Marshall AVT - not as bad as the Line 6, not as bad as an MG, but not a very good amp. once again, build in effects are horrible. It breaks up at loud volumes, gives pretty bad feedback. The clean channel is mediocore, just once again not a very decent amp.

Is that better?
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#13
So then, what would you recommend I get with a preferably $500 max price range?
#14
dude, the Spider is HORRIBLE, the AVT is also very bad.

but no matter what Spider you get, your going to get horrible tone, and a cheaply made amp, with the AVT your paying even more for an aqually ****ty amp.
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#15
So then what do I do, becuase my Frontman is deteriorating, gettign fuzzy and broken up, not holding a tone on distortion, everythign is gettign realy choppy, and I would like something that could do some gigs and hold it's own in a jam session (which this definitly cannot)
#16
Well, Id go with the Vox. Most people like it, basically everyone does, I own one and dont like it, its just me, its the best of your choices BY FAR though.
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#17
Is there anything that is a little better above the $300 Vox without putting me into bankrupcy?
#18
If i were you, i'd try to get a smaller tube combo. The exact amp depends on what music you play.
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#19
Im not a super amp expert here, and dont know 1000s of amps and im tired, so at the top of my head all I can think of is the Vox. Just stay away from Solid State Marshalls and most Line 6 equipment.
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#20
check out a roland cube 30 or 60 man. there amazing great for what you play to. i just ordered the 60
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#22
Ok maybe get a look at a roland, as suggested. OR perhaps stick with fender, my Champion 110 is only 25 watts, SS but is great for smaller gigs at like an indoor bar or somehing like that, put it through a 2X12 cab or just mic it into the house PA and im plenty loud!!

I got my Champion for 195.00 check ebay, Theres usually one or two, I swear by it and it can even drive a 4X12 if you need to, with some EQ tweeking it can be a scooped mid beast for metal or a tweed blues amp all in a turn of a knob.

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Ok maybe get a look at a roland, as suggested. OR perhaps stick with fender, my Champion 110 is only 25 watts, SS but is great for smaller gigs at like an indoor bar or somehing like that, put it through a 2X12 cab or just mic it into the house PA and im plenty loud!!

I got my Champion for 195.00 check ebay, Theres usually one or two, I swear by it and it can even drive a 4X12 if you need to, with some EQ tweeking it can be a scooped mid beast for metal or a tweed blues amp all in a turn of a knob.

Check them out !!! Take my word for it dude they rule!!


Solid state and 25W, and works for gigs? Im having trouble understanding that..
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#24
25 watts like you've never heard. Plus i use a 2X12 ext cab alot. It really is unbelievable, and I wouldnt expect it from any 25 watt SS amp, in fact normally this would be a joke, but in all hanest, it keeps up!! now mind you i use a bd-2 for solos to help cut through becase alone its not possibel but i manage.
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#25
id pick a vox
or a roland for metal
but the vox really sounds great for blues
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25 watts like you've never heard. Plus i use a 2X12 ext cab alot. It really is unbelievable, and I wouldnt expect it from any 25 watt SS amp, in fact normally this would be a joke, but in all hanest, it keeps up!! now mind you i use a bd-2 for solos to help cut through becase alone its not possibel but i manage.


Thats really fascinating actually. I never imagined a 25 watt SS amp to be usable for gigs.
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