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#1
If not then I'll deleat this. If you do then I'll show you all how piano's work, how to tune them, and some basics on how to fix them.
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#2
Bring on ze photographz!
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#3
Ok i like pianos and i wish i could play one. (oh well at least i can spell "delete") And i don't think there is anything in this forum that says u have to do about customizing guitars
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#5
go for it mate!
my bro has a baby grand, love it and would like to see how theyre contructed/work
#7
Ok, I'll do it then. I'm still waiting for the right size tuning wrench for this piano but once I get it then I'll get started. A lot of what goes into tuning a piano works very well when tuning your guitar too so it is still guitar related.
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#9
I wish I could play piano. ..
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#10
Ooo, piano porn, bring it on!
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#11
Yes!
Sounds awesome!
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#14
post em
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#16
do it! any fix to any instrument is cool, even more if the one doing it is cord!


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#17
Well to start things off I have to take the piano apart. You would be amazed how easy that actually in. Without the use of any tools I can get the whole front of the cabinate taken off, the keys taken out, and the action removed.

the piano with the covers removed


Taking the keys out


the keys are gone but the action is still there


The action is now out and the piano is ready for cleaning


The action is off to the side and ready to be inspected for broken parts, stiff parts, loose parts, and warn out felt.
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#19
Before I start tuning I want to go though and make sure all the part on the action are in good repair, and working properly.

Here you can see that the felt on the hammers is flat and the felt on the dampers is warn out. I will have to replace the damper felt but I can reshape the hammers.



Looking at the other side you can see that there is one key that isn't sitting in the same place as all the others. That is because there is a cloth peice called a bridle strap that is broken. As a general rule, when 1 of them breaks you need to replace all of them.



Now I'm lifing each key one at a time and letting it fall again. I'm watching for keys that are suggish when they drop, or stick up. I'm also listening for clicking noises. If I hear clicking it could mean a hammer is coming unglued from the shaft, or a spring is rusty or any number of other things. When the action is sliggish it's usually because swealling at one of the hinges is causing it to move slowly. Sluggish action parts can sometimes be fixed with graphite but often times means replacing bushings or sanding little bits of wood off.




Here you can see where one of the hammers doesn't fall back down when I push it up.



Another thing to look for is loose hammers. So I wiggle each one of them. I found one and the cause of this is warn out hinges. The hammers move as much as the one in this pic

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#22
very interesting indeed.

i didnt know piano keys were that long, i thought they were just what you saw, the white and black parts. didnt know they went that far into the thing.
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#23
kool, i already knew how a piano worked but i never new the bit that the hammers are put on is called the action.
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#24
Sweet stuff...I've looked around inside our piano just when I mic it for a recording(I flip up the top) but I've never dug in that deep. Cool beans.
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#26
Nice thread, interesting to see something like this.

Nice Herringbone Parque flooring too. Good to see it's being put down not taken up. I LOVE Parque flooring. You better put a double border round it too
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#27
it looks very interesting, but i have a question..... you have a lot of worn out felts there.... will you have to replace them all? and what is the price of each one? looks like an expensive job


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#28
make sure you go into alot of detail when you get to the tuning bit, that would be something that would be really usefull to know.
#29
^Nah, I think he was planning on going to all this detail pulling it apart, and then he was going to skip over the tuning part. That makes sense, for sure. =]
#30
you dont have to be an ass gymmeh, i just wanted to reassurt the need for a piano tuning tutorial that actually has some depth to it.
#32
^so am i but you have to at least have a reason, and im sure the mods would love to hear about this btw..
#33
I'm sure they would, too.

I have an pedal pumped organ that's at least 115 years old, but it could be up to 130 years old, Cord, and I was just wondering, would the insides of the organ look similar to this?

I COULD check, but you know, this thing's OLD.

The wood and cosmetics are all damn-near freaking perfect. But the mechanics of it are just ruined. Like the leather straps that connect the pedal to the air bag/sack thing are broken, and a few of the knobs for switching are broken off.
#34
Quote by madmk
Very nice, a big big job compared to setting up a guitar


You would be surprised just how easy it is working on a piano. Much easier than guitars because pianos are held together with screw and guitars are held together with glue. Pianos are not as tempremental and guitars either so they don't need to be as exact.

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Nice Herringbone Parque flooring too. Good to see it's being put down not taken up. I LOVE Parque flooring. You better put a double border round it too


Sorry man, Not doing a border at all, but I am laying this stuff down in 5 rooms of my house. Nothing looks like 100 year old honduran mahogany, and it looks even better when you know it was free. My wife pulled it out of a library that was getting torn down


Quote by UniverseZero
it looks very interesting, but i have a question..... you have a lot of worn out felts there.... will you have to replace them all? and what is the price of each one? looks like an expensive job


Yeah, it's expensive. The new felts cost me 80 quid or $150


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make sure you go into alot of detail when you get to the tuning bit, that would be something that would be really usefull to know.


I'll go into as much detail as I can.
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#35
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Sorry man, Not doing a border at all, but I am laying this stuff down in 5 rooms of my house. Nothing looks like 100 year old honduran mahogany, and it looks even better when you know it was free. My wife pulled it out of a library that was getting torn down

Wish I could get some for free. I'd just do my room in it or something. Our school is full of it, which is what you'd expect for a 93 year old building, though they've covered it up in some rooms with vinyl. Lovely. I'll shut up about floors now.
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#37
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Wish I could get some for free. I'd just do my room in it or something. Our school is full of it, which is what you'd expect for a 93 year old building, though they've covered it up in some rooms with vinyl. Lovely. I'll shut up about floors now.

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This thread is definitely getting bookmarked, v. interesting.


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#38
to the guy who asked, isn't an organ run on wind pipes instead of strings? in which case it would be insanly different?
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#39
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^so am i but you have to at least have a reason, and im sure the mods would love to hear about this btw..


I'd just like you to stop being an idiot Sempri_fi!
Don't ever try and use the mods for a threat again.
Gymmeh>you.

And yeah...the only thing really in common with an organ and a piano would be the fact that they both have keys...I'd think, at least.
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#40
well id like you to leave me be, both arent going to happen, and who said i would even report anything to you? they're are a couple other mods that are a bit more unbiased that i could talk with.
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