#1
Hey guys. I was wondering, is it harder to play really fast on a non-shred guitar? I own a Standard Strat and I was wondering if the non-shred neck will limit my speed. Thanks.
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#4
You shouldn't have to rely on a certain model guitar as a crutch for fast playing. You definatly can get fast enough with that...though there are some necks made for easier fast playing, don't get dependant on anything.
#5
So judging by the last response, yes, some necks are easier to shred with. Thanks guys.
#6
It really doesn't matter if you're good. But I can't play on a Stratocaster because the controls right below the pickups get in the way of my hand.
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#7
Some necks and guitars are easier, obvo.

Course, the main thing is you could become just as fast as anyone on pretty much any guitar with enough practice - its a matter of technique mostly, it'd just be harder.
#8
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gonna have to say no. I built up some decent speed on my strat before i bought my kelly, which does have a shreddier neck. (the shreddier neck does help though)
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#9
I remember someone saying on here before "A good guitarist makes an intermediate guitar sound advanced" Or something along those lines. That applies here. Take Yngwie for example,he plays on a Strat,scalloped(sp?) to which some say makes it even harder to play.

Ther are ways to make it easier but in general,you get used to any circumstances you're in with time and yeah,it won't make you faster as such..
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#10
That's just a matter of taste really.

some people really like those "hard to play" necks and others prefer the "shreddier" necks
the only differences between them are really just the dimensions (wide, slim etc...). Sometimes, fret sizes are a big dif too...

Find something that works for you, that's all I'd say...
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#11
When it all comes down to it, a slower neck will slow you down. But only a tiny bit, nothing really that noticable. Obviously you are going to be able to pick up a JEM and wizz around it quicker than an Epiphone, but once you're used to the Epi I'm sure you could do whatever you wanted on it.

So my answer is = yes, for a short while.
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Hey guys. I was wondering, is it harder to play really fast on a non-shred guitar? I own a Standard Strat and I was wondering if the non-shred neck will limit my speed. Thanks.


not enough to have an excuse to why you cant shred. My second guitar is a standard strat and it works fine and is a nice guitar for shred, so you dont have an excuse just keep practicing.


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#13
It can limit your speed, but not a huge amount. Gilbert would still be able to play Snakebite on a Squier.
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Though i have easier acces to a wider range of frets with my left hand.

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#15
string height is more of a speed killer than type of guitar or neck
most fenders have naturally high action,it will make you a fraction of a second slower

& no this is not something you can fix by fiddling with the saddles...you would have to replace the nut or have the grooves filed down
#16
Upper fret access is also important. Some guitars its increcibly difficult and just plain awkward to play up the top frets. Obviously this is gonna slow you down. But this thread has just plummeted into stating the obvious.
#17
Look dude, I'm practicing with a squier and it aint that bad. Let's just put it this way, Billie Joe Armstrong aint gonna be able to shred if he had a Carvin. It's doesnt make that big of a difference.
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#18
No, it can't.

I can play equally fast with my Strat and JEM, and the Strat's neck is a like a baseball bat.

Besides, almost every guitar has some player shredding with it, even Telecaster.
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I'm pretty sure as long as the neck isn't sticky it won't really matter.
If the neck is too wide of course it'll take a little longer to fret the lower strings, but that doesn't matter too much until it's rediculously fast.
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lol i managed to sweep-tap a 5 string apreggio on a damn fender tele
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lol i managed to sweep-tap a 5 string apreggio on a damn fender tele


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Look dude, I'm practicing with a squier and it aint that bad. Let's just put it this way, Billie Joe Armstrong aint gonna be able to shred if he had a Carvin. It's doesnt make that big of a difference.


how do you know that? have you seen him trying to shred? no. so shut the **** up
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how do you know that? have you seen him trying to shred? no. so shut the **** up


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#30
There are necks built for speed, but thats like saying the new Nikes make you run faster. It's all in your head... or fingers for this matter.

No matter what you play on, if you practice enough, your speed and accuracy will increase because you are training your fingers to become familiar with the instrument. It's all practice.

There are, of course, guitars that are easier to play because of minor details(wood, frets, necks, ect.) However, if you learn to play well on a crummy guitar, switching to a better guitar always opens new doors than if you were to start on it. Just take your time and build your excellence.
#31
^Yep. Nailed it,although it has been said about 5 times now.


On a different note, I take it you're from Wexford Ireland no?
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#32
i'v seen malmsteem play on a gibson es-335. now for those of you who know gibsons, you know that they have baseball bats for necks. i dont think the neck affects your speed.
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It limited me, I had a strat copy and I realised I could reach much higher speeds when I got my ibanez. But my strat did have very high action though.


I find the strat necks are far to chunky to move around quickly hense why its commonly said their necks are slow
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I find the strat necks are far to chunky to move around quickly hense why its commonly said their necks are slow


I disagree.

Strat necks arn't slow, I have an Ibanez RG 1570 (known for 'fast' necks as most of you probably know) and I usually practice on that all the time. However, at collage I went on an aquaintences Mexican Strat, and I can say that I could play just as fast and clean as on my Ibanez. The only difference is that I find a Wizard Presige neck to be slightly more comfortable, although the Strat neck was very comfortable as well.
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#35
^ whats been said 10'000 times already, as long as you can play as that speed, you'll be able to do it on any guitar. Although I think action is a factor, since you actually have to take time to press down if the action is rediculously high. Example being that old acoustic guitar everyone started playing with..y'know the one...hurts your fingers to fret higher than the 7th fret
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#36
My answer is no, you don't need a good guitar to shred, yo yourself need to be good enough to shred.

guitars don't shred, you do
#37
i actually cant play for **** on gibsons for some reason

but i can play fenders really good
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