bmschrad
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We'll I'm in the market for a new amp. I currently play a Ibanez 520EX through a Fender Frontman 15 that sucks when I turn it up.

I need something small though because I live in an apartment. I've read a lot of reviews on the cubes, vox's and the Valve Junior (although not a lot on metal). I thought the valve junior would be a nice head with a cab, I was just wondering if I could get a good thrash metal sound like old metallica, testament, slayer sound out of it even if it ment adding a pedal or two. I guess I'm just stuck between the valve junior and the cube.

Can someone give me suggestions please?

Here's the link to the head: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-Valve-Junior-Tube-Amplifier-Head?sku=482069

Thanks,

-B-
kurdtkobaign
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#2
No no no. Unless you plan on using a 'metal' pedal through it, its not going to be good for thrash. Your best best is the Cube. Plenty of on-board distortion which eliminates the need for a pedal. The Valve Junior, IMO, is meant to be played without any form of pedal. Just pure, smooth, tube break-up.
jj1565
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#3
well, its alot easier to get that tone with the cube.

ive got an epi head and, well u can hear ds1 clips in my sig. it's got potential, but ud need the epi head $100, empty cab $90 1x12, $50 speaker and $125 jekyl and hyde or other pedal.

the cube would just be plug in and play.

also, if u can find a scratch and dent speaker on MF match the ohms and swap out the speaker in the fender 15 too. it'll make it a whole new amp.


^well the valve jr really does need a pedal. i mean it's just one knob. an OD pedal is ideal. no clue how heavy it'll get tho.
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beckyjc
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#4
The valve jr is a fantastic little amp. It's a pedal wh*re. Loves em.
However not very versatile. Single channel. You have a volume knob and a power switch.
Cranking the amp will get you a bit of breakup.
But for anything past a bit of an AC/DC crunch. You'll need a pedal. Definitely. But it sounds fantastic for the price. You could try something like EHX Metal Muff, ProCo Rat, Digitech DF-7 (For versatility.) etc. because in all honestly, most metal pedals are pretty crap sounding, and most metal artists just use natural amp distortion with a touch of an OD pedal for a boost or vice versa, and that's not really doable with the Valve Jr, unless you want to keep it cranked (It's pretty bloody loud.).
bmschrad
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Quote by jj1565
also, if u can find a scratch and dent speaker on MF match the ohms and swap out the speaker in the fender 15 too. it'll make it a whole new amp.


^well the valve jr really does need a pedal. i mean it's just one knob. an OD pedal is ideal. no clue how heavy it'll get tho.



Cool maybe I'll try that.

Thanks for all the input everyone!!

-B-
R_H_C_P
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#6
It will probably end up sounding more flabby that nice and metal sounding.
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Don't be afraid to care"

Fender Strat/Tokai LS80>few pedals>Orange Rocker 30
jj1565
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well yeah, the fender 15 has a 8" speaker. might be hard to find one but eminence has a few.
i swapped out the 10" in my FM25R and it sounds incredible. i found a red coat for $40.

still, its fender so expect better cleans than heavy.
Jenneh

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leelee
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I play (try to anyway) metal and I sold my Cube 30 after I got my Epi VJH. My cab is a Celestion V30 in a Lopo Line 1x12. And I have a EHX Metal Muff to get the tone I want. I also have a Magicstomp which gives nice time based effects throught he VJH as well. Total out of pocket so far has been $100 + $120 + $85 + $75 + $79 for the head, cab, speaker, Metal Muff, and Magicstomp, respectively. So for about 2x the cost of a Cube 30, this rig got me a LOT more features, flexibility in expanding/swapping gear, and much better tone.

It isn't as loud as the Cube 30 though. I have never been able to dime the knob on my Cube 30 but doing so with the valve junior possible.
Ibanez RG2570E, Epiphone VJH-PP, Celestion V30 Lopo Line 1x12, EHX Metal Muff, Yamaha Magicstomp MKII, Tascam CD-GT1 MKII
SamDking
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^ Nice setup!

Love the colour of those Rootbeer Agiles as well.
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jj1565
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Quote by leelee
My cab is a Celestion V30 in a Lopo Line 1x12. And I have a EHX Metal Muff to get the tone I want.

Cube 30, this rig got me a LOT more features, flexibility in expanding/swapping gear, and much better tone.

It isn't as loud as the Cube 30 though. I have never been able to dime the knob on my Cube 30 but doing so with the valve junior possible.



haha i bought a Lopo line too. matched the color and everything. sweet.

i like my setup better than my cousins cube 30.

and i think its almost as loud if u take into consideration that anything past half or so on a cube wrecks the tone.
Jenneh

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