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OK, I am not out to criticize shredders or the art of shredding, but I just wanted to know why shredders only use really light strings like 0.8's. Does it really make a big difference if they played on a heavier gauge because they sound better and have more sustain. Or is it just laziness because it takes less effort on a lighter gauge?
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I play on .10 gauge strings, so do a lot of shredders, a lot of them also use .09's just like most other guitarists... I only know two that use .08, thus your point is moot.

Guess it's something you heard somewhere, like most people when they talk about "shred"

It's simple... If you're lazy, you'll never meet the standards shredding requires.
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Do you know for a fact all shredders use light gauges?
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I play .12's and can still shred.
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hey, give the guy a break, he didnt mean for it to come out like that.
yeh not all shredders use .8's
those strings are supposed to sound more "metal" (when in fact i hardly notice the difference personally)
and thats why a lot of them use .8's
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i can shred better on .12s than .09s... i dont see a big difference with the left hand, and its easier on my right hand with thicker strings... my pick glides through them
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Uh..Im playing .13s, and still shred, but thats because it gives my low strings a heavier crunch., and I tune to C standard sometimes. Other than that, I use 9s because it is easier to bend strings and stuff. String guage doesnt mean you are lazy, fool It is also because some people's hands are not built heavy or big enough to use thick strings, or their technique doesnt allow for heavier strings, since you would have to apply more force, and since you are taking more time to apply the force, it takes longer for you to hit each note, therefore making you slower.
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I prefer.12's to any lighter gauge, especially when I want to play anything fast. I can only think of a couple people who use .8's, famous or otherwise.
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hey, give the guy a break


I'm sure he's not offended, as he would have to be very oversensitive... Just pointing out the facts.
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I like my 8s and 9s...it's the light feel, nothing to do with speed at all.
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I love the way 9s sound and the light feeling.
It realy doesnt add that much speed but it feel easier.
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I am only familiar with one guitarist that used .08s and that was Shawn Lane because he had arthritis.


I use .10s btw.
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Todd Duane is one of the fastest shredders and he plays on 11's , in they end what matters is what u feel comfortable with.
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The only shredders that I can think of that use '08s are Shawn Lane (because he had arthritis) and Yngwie (and some fat dude with a mullet that played '08s tuned down one or two steps...). I use 10's and am considering moving up to 11's.
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The only shredders that I can think of that use '08s are Shawn Lane (because he had arthritis) and Yngwie (and some fat dude with a mullet that played '08s tuned down one or two steps...). I use 10's and am considering moving up to 11's.


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i play .09s and sometimes .10s my hands are small though but i do like the feel of heavier strings but some chords kill my hands so yeah
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Its total preference over the control of the strings and tone...

Some like the flimsy feel of 8s/9s, others like sturdy 10s/above
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i use 10s on my jackson that i shred with and i tune it down 1 step to D standerd, i have 11s on my strat in e flat, and 12s on my les paul in drop C
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Why do you think shredders only use .08's?

New pic I see. I use 9s.
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9's for me. I'm actually really picky about this - the only strings I'll use are DR .09s. I've played D'Addario, Dean Markley, Elixir, and GHS, but I love DR strings. Nothing else quite does it.

I'm the same way about picks - I hate plastic ones. The only picks I use are Fender Cellulite Heavies, usually blue moto.
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.008's feel ridiculously stange to me. .009's feel like correct string tension in E standard to me. Every half step I go from there i like to add .001 to my string gauge. I would only use .008's if i were to play in F or F#.
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im using 10s....thinking about using 9s from now on, played a set of them on a friends guitar, felt much better.
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#28
I don't even know what gauge i use yet i like it

I use lighter strings.... i tried playing SMS on my rhythm guitarists guitar...

The guy has freaking lumberjack hands =.=
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I use 11s and can shred fine....

But I'm considering 10s cuz I wanna start bending 2 steps....... UP !!!
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Ok i changed the gauge.

I change form 9s to 10s (regural slinky) because i started to play two steps down tuning and 9s detuned and played on jumbo frets dont realy play nice.

Theres preety much no difference beetween the two gauges except that the 10s sound better.

So now 9s<10s ftw. IMO
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String gauge is obviously a personal preference. I use 9s because I have small weak hands. Heavier strings give a much better tone but shredding doesn't always emphasize this. I'd say string guage contributes to tone more in blues playing for example, Stevie Ray Vaughn used 14s. Shred tone leans more towards amp models and distortion pedals most of the time.
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^Shredding doesn't emphasize on good tone ??

And SRV used 13s !!
Tone is all ...... well probably 75%, in your fingers.
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Quote by AMGram
String gauge is obviously a personal preference. I use 9s because I have small weak hands. Heavier strings give a much better tone but shredding doesn't always emphasize this. I'd say string guage contributes to tone more in blues playing for example, Stevie Ray Vaughn used 14s. Shred tone leans more towards amp models and distortion pedals most of the time.


What? That's ridiculous. Tell Eric Johnson or Scott Henderson that.
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Uh..Im playing .13s, and still shred, but thats because it gives my low strings a heavier crunch., and I tune to C standard sometimes. Other than that, I use 9s because it is easier to bend strings and stuff. String guage doesnt mean you are lazy, fool It is also because some people's hands are not built heavy or big enough to use thick strings, or their technique doesnt allow for heavier strings, since you would have to apply more force, and since you are taking more time to apply the force, it takes longer for you to hit each note, therefore making you slower.


Right...which is why we call you lazy...

Those are all excuses. Hands are not built heavy? LMFAO... A quick lesson in anatomy...fingers have muscles in them. So you can use thick strings, apply more force and learn to deal with the differences by building up your goddamn finger muscles yourself.

Now, if you have short fingers you may not be able to. But then, if you have short fingers then we all know what that means....right? And in that case...string gauge is the least of your problems...
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Yes the first part of your post was pretty much true, but the second post was completly idiotic. You just contradicted yourself. As you said, fingers have muscles in them and having short fingers doesn't mean that your muscles can't get stronger.
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Yes the first part of your post was pretty much true, but the second post was completly idiotic. You just contradicted yourself. As you said, fingers have muscles in them and having short fingers doesn't mean that your muscles can't get stronger.


Of course I contradicted myself - it was joke... you know...the whole short finger bit? usually means short other things?
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Ok my bad, the first sentence of of the second part didn't really seem like part of the joke to me.
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Ok my bad, the first sentence of of the second part didn't really seem like part of the joke to me.


Well, it was the set up. But you're right.

By the way, I use 11's. My style and application dictates my string gauge. I used to play heavier strings in a crappy band years ago because the singer was really low range and we had to tune down to C. This was before 7 string guitars came around. All of our covers sounded weird and off. I'm sure glad that's over....