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#1
I read this book about tube amps the other day where the guy said you should basically focus all your money on your amp cos even a crap guitar will sound ok through a decent amp, while a decent guitar will sound crap through a bad amp. I personally sort of half agree - amps are half the story.

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#2
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#3
thats pretty much the case. i think a mesa might be able to make a squier sound half decent. but then again, if the guitar sucks, and isnt any fun to play, it wont be as good.
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amps make a huge difference, and i think what you read is pretty much true, thats if by 'bad guitar' they mean low quality/cheap, instead of horribly set up and out of tune.
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#5
yeah i'll add to that...90% amp, 5% pickups, and the last 5% is strings and your effects chain and stuff like that.
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#7
I think the amp is most important. I've played a $150 strat copy through my hot rod and it was sounding amazing. I've also played my american strat through a cheap fender ss amp and thought it sounded horrible.
#8
Amps are important but the sound comes from your playing so you really need a comfortable guitar
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#10
I agree. If u have a great guitar but a crappy/O.K. amp it will sound like shit/O.K. On the other end if u have a REALLY shity guitar but a great amp will still sound like shit. However if u have a fairly descent guitar and a great amp it should sound great. Of course it will still probably sound better with a better guitar but not too much.
#11
Better guitar, better playability.
Better amp, way better sound.

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#12
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thats pretty much the case. i think a mesa might be able to make a squier sound half decent. but then again, if the guitar sucks, and isnt any fun to play, it wont be as good.


+1.

it's mostly the amp, but at the same time you won't find too many people playing a squier through a dumble, for example.
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#13
My Squier through my AD30VT doesn't sound half bad. Through the ol' 10-watter? Crap. Utter crap. Now I have a tone that I rather like.
#14
pretty much but you still need a playable guitar. meaning, not like $1000 amp and $50 guitar, lol.

but amp>guitar definitely
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#15
amp is not everything, but a shit amp sounds like shit, and a good amp sounds good...

everything else makes a good amp great.
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#16
80% amp
10% guitar
9% effects (varies depending on what exactly you use)
1% fingers
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80% amp
10% guitar
9% effects (varies depending on what exactly you use)
1% fingers


so if you play through stevie ray vaughan's rig it would sound 99% like Stevie?

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80% amp
10% guitar
9% effects (varies depending on what exactly you use)
1% fingers


Hahahaha... if I were you, I would have deleted that post after reading it. Then again, I wouldn't ever come up with such BS.
#19
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amp is not everything, but a shit amp sounds like shit, and a good amp sounds good...

everything else makes a good amp great.


that's a nice way of putting it.



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9% effects (varies depending on what exactly you use)
1% fingers


everyone else has had their shot, so I might as well have mine too...

so someone who can't play guitar will sound 99% as good as vai through his exact rig?
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so someone who can't play guitar will sound 99% as good as vai through his exact rig?

if you can afford it, or get lucky enough to get to play it.

but no.
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#21
I know some idiots who pay like 1000 bucks for a LP Studio or American Strat, just to run it through a cheap Crate or Spider.

If you have 1000 bucks to spend, spend 300-350 for a decent playable guitar (Mexi Fender or Epi for most people) and then the rest on a good amp.
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I know some idiots who pay like 1000 bucks for a LP Studio or American Strat, just to run it through a cheap Crate or Spider.

If you have 1000 bucks to spend, spend 300-350 for a decent playable guitar (Mexi Fender or Epi for most people) and then the rest on a good amp.


^ One of my friend's mates just forked out for a USA razorback and plays it through a Spider II.

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^^ +1 on pink.

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#24
this really doesnt make any sense, they both are needed equally to get sound at all... so if I get rid of my guitar i still got 90 percent of tone? Bitch please, i can get a better tone of my acoustic than your guitarless amp....
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#25
^You know what we mean.
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#26
I wouldn't say it's 90% amp, but it is mostly amp. Next, your pickups, wood quality, etc are important.

The overlooked variable, though, is the fingers. Those are important as anything else when it comes to achieving a certain sound.
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this really doesnt make any sense, they both are needed equally to get sound at all... so if I get rid of my guitar i still got 90 percent of tone? Bitch please, i can get a better tone of my acoustic than your guitarless amp....



they are talking about rigs. guitar amp and maybe effects used together.
and they are assigning %, based on importance to each part's role in overall tone.
now do u get it?

on a similar note. i suppose if u get rid of ur fingers the other guy ^ thinks ull still sound 99% ok.
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they are talking about rigs. guitar amp and maybe effects used together.
and they are assigning %, based on importance to each part's role in overall tone.
now do u get it?

on a similar note. i suppose if u get rid of ur fingers the other guy ^ thinks ull still sound 99% ok.



yes i know, that was my heavy use of sarcasm, I just think that you really shouldnt give it in percent figures because everything is nessessary to sound at all... Like what makes everyone think that its 90% amp? I've heard amazing guitars through fender frontmans that sound just gorgeous... I kid you not.
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#29
i say around
70% amp
10% pickups
10% guitar
10% effects chains

i do beleive that your fingers play a roll in tone but thats just a case of it being unique
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#30
the speaker shapes the tone my brutha. and i was sort of dripping in sarcasm myself.
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#31
^But don't you take that into consideration with your amp?!?!?! This is all so confusing!!!!!!!!
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#32
yeah sorry, i was talking about the amp/ speaker. jungle jumped in when i was answering Batman.
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#33
my amp is such a huge part of my sound, but it sounds so different from strat to gibson, or even strat to strat.

I think everything is equally important to finding your sound, but the amp makes the hugest difference.
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#34
The amps far from everything, you don't wnat too much difference in the quality of your equipment. The amp can hold back the guitar, but not the other way round, the easiest way to look at its...

A crap amp can make a great guitar sound crap
A good amp will let ANY guitar, great or crap, sound as good as possible.
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#35
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40% amp
19% guitar
1% effects (varies depending on what exactly you use)
40% fingers

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#36
I'd say
70% amp
20% guitar
10% effects

I didn't include fingers because to me they don't count as gear....

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#37
Amp...60
Guitar...20
Strings, pickups, pick, fingers, cables, tubes, etc...20%

Didn't count effects because the effect on tone ranges wildly....a clean boost will make a small difference, 18 fuzz factories would probably make you sound rather different than usual.
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#39
90% fingers
9% amp
1% guitar
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#40
these percents are retarded, they cant be divied into percents
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