KileManA7X
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#1
I watch the "Man who sold the world" at SNL on youtube. It was kind of weird. I know David Bowie is weird like that but can someone please explain what he's all about. That's the only song I know by him. Please no flaming .
devilscruffs14
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#2
only that david bowie is the man. he cant play guitar very well, or sing very well, but he still kicks asss. but listen to "starman" for the guitar solo, its pretty, but its mick ronson's solo. space oddity, and !!!!!!!ZIGGY STARDUST!!!!! are good songs too
psychodelia
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#3
Well, let Wikipedia do the history bit for you.

I just consider him to be a guy who pushed himself into new musical directions, and came up with some great songs while doing it. Hard rock, proto-punk, folk, new wave, ambient, soul... there's so much different stuff by him, and I'm still discovering it. One of my all-time favorite artists.
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KileManA7X
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#4
No, but why does he act so weird? Is he trying to act as someone? Does the song have some weird story to it?
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#5
He was weird because he could be. Weirdness and being different gets people interested in you. Nothing wrong with acting a little different than the usual. Bowie just happens to back it up with great music.

And no, he is not playing a character with The Man Who Sold the World. That would come later.
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#6
I know he can...but does his outfit or how he's acting mean anything?
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#7
Not really. Just the way he performs. He didn't perform as characters until later.
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i like a few songs by bowie but i think he's overated
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#9
I like the earlier Bowie best. Hunky Dory is probably my favorite album of his.
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#10
He's a great musician albeit dressing a little creepy at times...two of my favs were life on mars and starman....there's some songs that once you've listened to you don't want to hear for a while but legends like these you could play often.....
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#11
He was acting all the time. He often called himself an actor. He had many stages in his career as he had musical styles. Moving target.^^
Here are some other examples:
as "Ziggy Stardust" or "Aladdin Sane" for that matter: http://youtube.com/watch?v=67ZwSTjv3zE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ki1NOSzUZ0I
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZE5uByp47Ik

as "Halloween Jack"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Hp92kyXFvjQ

As a strange soul guy (well that wasn't acting I suppose...strange enough anyway)
:http://youtube.com/watch?v=8PB4h3W9kEQ


as "thin white duke" (well this is shortly before)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dZ6Lnl4LZBI

As some strange art-murder-possessed-guy: (from his incredible outside album)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Swl7aZGMxvU

The video of the man who sold the world is from 1979 btw. There are other videos from that night.
He is not (only) classic rock! I've never heard anyone who doesn't like anything by DB. He really is an artist. His music is demanding for sure but at the same time it's extremly rewarding.
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#12
Quote by psychodelia
Well, let Wikipedia do the history bit for you.

I just consider him to be a guy who pushed himself into new musical directions, and came up with some great songs while doing it. Hard rock, proto-punk, folk, new wave, ambient, soul... there's so much different stuff by him, and I'm still discovering it. One of my all-time favorite artists.


I agree.

I dont think you will ever be able to place him in a genre as he has delved into every genre under the sun. He has got to be one of the most versatile men in music ever! Sheer brilliance

Quote by DieN
He was acting all the time. He often called himself an actor. He had many stages in his career as he had musical styles. Moving target.^^
Here are some other examples:
as "Ziggy Stardust" or "Aladdin Sane" for that matter: http://youtube.com/watch?v=67ZwSTjv3zE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ki1NOSzUZ0I
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZE5uByp47Ik

as "Halloween Jack"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Hp92kyXFvjQ

As a strange soul guy (well that wasn't acting I suppose...strange enough anyway)
:http://youtube.com/watch?v=8PB4h3W9kEQ


as "thin white duke" (well this is shortly before)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dZ6Lnl4LZBI

As some strange art-murder-possessed-guy: (from his incredible outside album)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Swl7aZGMxvU

The video of the man who sold the world is from 1979 btw. There are other videos from that night.
He is not (only) classic rock! I've never heard anyone who doesn't like anything by DB. He really is an artist. His music is demanding for sure but at the same time it's extremly rewarding.


You missed his most famous film ever which is regaurded as legendary

THE LABRINTH
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#13
Well...the Labyrinth wasn't one of his stages. Personally I think the whole Labyrinth/80s Bowie thing is pretty embarrassing.^^
"The Man Who Fell to Earth" on the other hand is an authentic "Bowie-phase". Alienation was his main theme in the 70s, as it seems.
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Lost_Rose
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#14
How dare you lol!!

Its what got me into bowie! Its a great cult film not to be missed if your a bowie fan
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Quote by Lost_Rose
How dare you lol!!

Its what got me into bowie! Its a great cult film not to be missed if your a bowie fan

Sorry then
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#17
Quote by devilscruffs14
only that david bowie is the man. he cant play guitar very well, or sing very well, but he still kicks asss...


I think he sings incredibly well. He often puts a lot of character in his voice when he sings, which might detract from the pure technique of it, but when he's just focused on singing, it becomes obvious that he has a great voice. Plus, because he considers himself an actor, he really plays the songs, rather than just focusing on the notes. Listen to "Five Years" for a great example.

Also, "Lady Stardust" is, to me, one of the greatest vocal performances in popular music.
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#18
i thought nirvana did good job of covering "Man who sold the world",its gotta be one of the best covers ever imo
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#19
^ No way, they completely butchered it. Any semblance of its original Middle Eastern tinged style is totally gone in their version. Bowie's original version totally crushes it
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#20
Bowie's version was quite groovin.

Plus, that clam of a note right at the beginning of the guitar solo in Nirvana's puts me off. (Isn't it running through a distortion pedal or something? I would think you could put away the distortion for an "unplugged" show)
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#22
I always thought Ziggy Stardust was refering to Jimi Hendrix... whoever it refers to...damn i wanna meet him... but it does meet Jimi hendrix excpectations..
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#23
Quote by kurt_hendrix
I always thought Ziggy Stardust was refering to Jimi Hendrix... whoever it refers to...damn i wanna meet him... but it does meet Jimi hendrix excpectations..

Say wha?

Ziggy Stardust is David Bowie. Is that what you're asking for?
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#24
Quote by paintITblack39
Say wha?

Ziggy Stardust is David Bowie. Is that what you're asking for?


I've heard things that Ziggy is loosely based on Hendrix... "he played it left hand", etc.

edit: apparently, it doesn't seem to be true, though.
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#25
As far as I know David Bowie is lefthand himself. One of those who were forced to everything the "right" way.
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Ziggy Stardust wasn't really based on Hendrix. He was based on some other rock guitarist in the 60's. I can't recall his name and Google isn't cooperating, but he wasn't a very well known guy. Died before he made it big. The name also comes from The Stardust Cowboy, a singer Bowie was inspired by.

EDIT: Correction: the guitarist was Vince Taylor, and he didn't actually die until 1991. But his self-destructive behavior and god complex pretty much destroyed his career long before that.
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Quote by psychodelia
I've heard things that Ziggy is loosely based on Hendrix... "he played it left hand", etc.

edit: apparently, it doesn't seem to be true, though.

Heh, Ziggy was one weird person. I'd love to see him perform again.
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