#1
I am 52 yrs old and am just starting on the electric guitar. I'm getting a Fender Standard Stratocaster. I don't have a lot of money left over for an amp, and just want something small to start with anyway. I am considering the Marshall MS4 Mini Amp.

I've been looking for reviews on this amp, but cannot find any. What is the opinion here of that amp???????????

Thanks in advance,
db
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Quote by db297
I am 52 yrs old and am just starting on the electric guitar. I'm getting a Fender Standard Stratocaster. I don't have a lot of money left over for an amp, and just want something small to start with anyway. I am considering the Marshall MS4 Mini Amp.

I've been looking for reviews on this amp, but cannot find any. What is the opinion here of that amp???????????

Thanks in advance,
db


That little amp with a Fender guitar? I dont think that will work very well. If i were you, I would not get a Fender but rather get an Ibanez RG321 and an Amp that is around 150 bux.

Ibanez RG321 = $250.00
And this amp is not bad too its $110.00

http://www.guitarcenter.com/shop/product/buy_marshall_mg15cd_15_watt_combo?full_sku=482799
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Quote by pinoyplaya
That little amp with a Fender guitar? I dont think that will work very well. If i were you, I would not get a Fender but rather get an Ibanez RG321 and an Amp that is around 150 bux.

Ibanez RG321 = $350.00
And this amp is not bad too its $110.00

http://www.guitarcenter.com/shop/product/buy_marshall_mg15cd_15_watt_combo?full_sku=482799


WTF?

I myself think the fender standard strat is THE beginner guitar, not some weird ibanez shredding strangeness.


I would also warn against both the marshall amps. MG's are awful (and yes, Ive played many) and the mini one may seem good, but you'll want something a little louder after a month of playing (trust me)

I'd recommend a microcube and the strat just look on musiciansfriend.com for the amp

good luck


edit: and yes, I realize i'm being prejudiced about the ibanez, but a begginer will have no use with a 24 fret wizard neck that will be uncomfortable to play

edit 2

threadstarter, that amp (the ms4) is VERY small, it won't be much louder than just playing the electric unplugged...
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WTF?

I myself think the fender standard strat is THE beginner guitar, not some weird ibanez shredding strangeness.


I would also warn against both the marshall amps. MG's are awful (and yes, Ive played many) and the mini one may seem good, but you'll want something a little louder after a month of playing (trust me)

I'd recommend a microcube and the strat just look on musiciansfriend.com for the amp

good luck


edit: and yes, I realize i'm being prejudiced about the ibanez, but a begginer will have no use with a 24 fret wizard neck that will be uncomfortable to play


The reason I suggested the Ibanez guitar was because its $50.00 less than the Fender and with that $50.00, he can get a better amp since he doesn't "have a lot of money leftover for an amp"

And that 15watt Marshall Amp actually sounds really good. Sounds better than Fender Amps that cost up to twice as much.
#5
Your amp is what is going to play a major part in what your guitar sounds like. That means most people here will tell you to spend (with your apparent budget) about 50:50 on your amp and guitar meaning you should get a cheaper guitar, and a way better amp.

For example like the above poster I would get something along the lines of an RG321. I can tell you its a great guitar for the price, and a lot of people will back me up on this one.

As for an amp, I would stay away from MGs, I've tried one out and to be honest the sound you get is far from nice (muddy, very hard to get a defined tone out of it). A Roland Cube amp is a good idea..read around on the reviews on UG to see what you can find too.

RG321:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-RG321-Electric-Guitar?sku=512492

Then considering you were spending about 450$ seeing the stanrd strat cost, I can imagine getting the Roland Cube 30X:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Roland-Cube-30X-Amp-with-COSM?sku=487032X

That would be a very good start in my oppinion...

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#6
Here's an amp you might also want to consider if you want to stick with a Fender....

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-25R-Frontman-Series-II-Guitar-Combo?sku=480669


Personally, in my opinion, I would actually spend more money on the Amp than the Guitar. The amp can make a bad sounding guitar sound a bit better.

My amp actually cost twice as much as my guitar and its just crazy sounding.
#7
Sorry I mistyped the price for the RG321. Its actually only $250.00 and with the Fender Standard cost $400.00 (I think) That right there saves you $150.00 and you cant get a decent guitar at around $200.00 and up price range!
#8
I would spend as much, if not more on the amp than the guitar. I have a $140 ibanez, but my amp is great, so i sound like a million bucks. You could try looking around local shops for used amps, the used ones usually sound brand new, and you get a better deal, good luck.
#9
I just want to thank everyone that responded. I really do appreciate the input. Hopefully, in a couple of years I'll be able to give some sound advice.

db
#10
with all due respect, err... 52? just began playing guitar?
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with all due respect, err... 52? just began playing guitar?


is there something wrong with that? It is never too late to start something new. At least you learned something before you rest in peace.
#12
yep - 52 and just starting. No offense taken. I've been a Clapton fan since the 60's. Last year a rare back disease kicked in and I am now disabled. I have all day now to do what I always wanted to do, and that's to learn to play the guitar. I figure I can spend 6-8 hours a day practicing. My trouble is I'm a perfectionist, thus I will never be as good as I want to be no matter how good I get. If I can play "Old Love" even 90% like Clapton did in his 1998 Live at Hyde Park DVD then I will be happy though. Even if it takes me 10 years.

Anyway, no matter how old you are, it's never too late to learn and pursue your dream.

I hope you all pursure your dreams and wish you all good luck.

db
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yep - 52 and just starting. No offense taken. I've been a Clapton fan since the 60's. Last year a rare back disease kicked in and I am now disabled. I have all day now to do what I always wanted to do, and that's to learn to play the guitar. I figure I can spend 6-8 hours a day practicing. My trouble is I'm a perfectionist, thus I will never be as good as I want to be no matter how good I get. If I can play "Old Love" even 90% like Clapton did in his 1998 Live at Hyde Park DVD then I will be happy though. Even if it takes me 10 years.

Anyway, no matter how old you are, it's never too late to learn and pursue your dream.

I hope you all pursure your dreams and wish you all good luck.

db



well put, man. Never too young. I'm 17 and wish i started sooner! =D
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well put, man. Never too young. I'm 17 and wish i started sooner! =D


Ye im 18 and wish i started sooner too.

My trouble is I'm a perfectionist, thus I will never be as good as I want to be no matter how good I get.


When playing a guitar, dont try to be a perfectionist as it causes you to stop and start all over again.
Example:
When you strum in perfect sync then you wanted to switch from chord D to C, dont always try to get it right, just try your best to get from D to C and when you make a mistake, dont stop, continue strumming and correct the mistake while strumming. Otherwise you won't be playing smoothly.
#15
You're never too old (no pun intended...erm, sir ) or too young to play the guitar, it's just practice that matters.

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I believe everyone has the ideology that they will never be as good as they want to be at guitar, which plays a big part in driving us to practice more and more.|

But back to the topic, I would actually buy the fender and get one of these.
I was also biased against mini amps until my friend played his squier through one, and it sounded pretty decent and at just the right volume. Hell, I'm getting one for my dorm because my valve junior is too loud, and I don't quite like practicing without an amp.
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Quote by db297
yep - 52 and just starting. No offense taken. I've been a Clapton fan since the 60's. Last year a rare back disease kicked in and I am now disabled. I have all day now to do what I always wanted to do, and that's to learn to play the guitar. I figure I can spend 6-8 hours a day practicing. My trouble is I'm a perfectionist, thus I will never be as good as I want to be no matter how good I get. If I can play "Old Love" even 90% like Clapton did in his 1998 Live at Hyde Park DVD then I will be happy though. Even if it takes me 10 years.

Anyway, no matter how old you are, it's never too late to learn and pursue your dream.

I hope you all pursure your dreams and wish you all good luck.

db



Seriously, if you want to play Clapton, go for the strat, not one of these low end ibanez guitars. I suggest you get a small fender amp over a marhsall MG, as they are trash. Best luck to you! Hobbies can be picked up whenever as long as you put at least a little bit of time into them each day.
#18
thread starter ive been playing forever. trust me, get the fender is u want it, but instead of that MG pick up a vox DA5.

VOX practice AMP + Fender = heaven.

MG = bees in a box.
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What about the Epiphone All Access package?

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-All-Access-Amp-Pack?sku=480268

This is what I have. It sounds fine to me... but I don't have a good ear. For example, I have to use a digital tuner.
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im sure the epi starter pack sounds fine, and is fine for u. but he's getting a standard fender. and probably shouldnt gear down to that.

and deluxity, ive got the epi too, but i think in this case. that's probably not the "best" choice for this player. as the epi's have great tube sound, but not alot of versatility.

he would need an OD to drive it at bedroom levels, and might be looking to find his tone.
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#23
Threadstarter, you could also go used on the strat. My first guitar was a standard strat, and I think I payed about 150-250 USD for it used. It was a great deal (I sold it a year later for 300 ).

But yeah, good luck to you, we'll keep an eye on youtube
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But back to the topic, I would actually buy the fender and get one of these.
an amp.


for the love of god, do not get the mini-deluxe. It is the worst thing i've ever heard. it comes with built in distortion (you can't get a clean sound) it's terrible. If you play a single string it's bad, but when you try to play chords it sounds like someone's whacking a bag of pissed bees with a shovel. I bought one of the mini-deluxes, and after the first day i had it, it has never come out of the box.
I would try a Vox maybe, my guitar teacher has one, and the room we play in is barely big enough to fit us, and you can hear his accoustic over it easily, so it's not too loud, but it sounds beautiful.