#1
So I was a bit confused after reading the sticky on amps...Would I be better off getting a 25W amp or a 15W amp for home practice. I will not be turning it up too loud for the most part. Would I get better sound with the 25W or should I go with the 15W. Like, are there disadvantages to not turning up an amp to at least half its max volume. Please inform me, it will really help my decision. Thank you.
#2
headroom means you can turn it louder before it distorts. for quet bedroom practice 15 watts is fine, but what amps are you looking at?
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Well SS amps especially, really lose sound quality when theyre turned up to their max. So itd be beneficial to you to buy a bigger amp (if we're talking about SS of course) that you dont have to turn up, to keep the sound quality.

If we're talking about tube, you'd want to go with a smaller amp if you like the sound of natural tube break up. A lot of people like this, so maybe a really loud amp wouldnt be great for them. If you get a louder amp with more headroom, itll have to be a lot louder before it breaks up, which some people also prefer.
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if you're going ss, just get the 15w, it wont make that much difference with headroom, but, if you're going valve, then you will have more headroom, wich means the clean channel will break up into overdrive later and at higher volumes.
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IF your just practicing a 15 watt should be fine.....
it depends what kind of amp your getting
i think a vox VALVETRONIX would be a really good amp to start with
i think it comes in 15watts and 25 im not sure
go to a local guitar shop and try one out
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Sorry, forgot to mention, both amps are solid state. They are they Peavey Rage 258 and the Line 6 Spider III.
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Sorry, forgot to mention, both amps are solid state. They are they Peavey Rage 258 and the Line 6 Spider III.


If they were giving the Spider away at the door with every package of picks sold, I would say, "no thanks."

If SS/modelling amps are what you're after, I recommend the Vox AD30VT.
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If they were giving the Spider away at the door with every package of picks sold, I would say, "no thanks."

If SS/modelling amps are what you're after, I recommend the Vox AD30VT.



Are they really that bad? Please give me a legitimate reason why you hate them? Have you played them before? I really can't see how it could be that atrocious. By the way, vox is out of my league ATM, so its out of the question. Would you recommend the PEavey 258?
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I've played them both and they're harsh, tinny, and the sound bores you in the simplest terms. I tried the Vox ad50 recently, and was surprised by just how great the thing sounded. If I were you, I'd definitely get a vox valvetronix ad30.... and it's pretty good for metal (for all you metalheads lol). In fact, I found it to have a much fatter metal tone than the roland cubes that have a reputation for this.

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Are they really that bad? Please give me a legitimate reason why you hate them? Have you played them before? I really can't see how it could be that atrocious. By the way, vox is out of my league ATM, so its out of the question. Would you recommend the PEavey 258?


Spiders have a thin, fake, digital sound. My son plays with them when we hit Guitar Center or Sam Ash, and I always steer him away from them. He's only 11, but he already understands that tubes are the way to go.

I'm not familiar with the Peavey, so I can't help you there.

If you're looking for an amp specifically for bedroom use, perhaps a Vox DA5 would be up your alley. It's only 5W, but sounds great, and it's battery powered so you can carry it with you to the park to attract chicks when it's springtime weather in January like it is here in NY today.
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#12
Well, thanks for your help everyone. I think what I need too do is try out some amps for myself. Its the only way I'm going to properly solve this. Ya know, I was watching the spider III demo on line 6's website and mick thompson from slipknot was playing and i did notice some tinniness which I don't really like too much. I want a serious, heavy duty metal tone. I don't know if line 6 will cut it. I think I may go with the Peavey and work with that, then opt for a metal pedal in the future...but I'm talking too much, and I know nobody cares much anyway...Thanks again
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Are they really that bad? Please give me a legitimate reason why you hate them? Have you played them before? I really can't see how it could be that atrocious. By the way, vox is out of my league ATM, so its out of the question. Would you recommend the PEavey 258?


If you mean out of your league for ability - that's not true it's really a beginner to medium ability amp.

If you mean out of your league in price range - I don't know how much the Spiders are but they can't be much less than Valvetronix if they are.

As for which wattage, i always foun dwith my 15 watt using for home practicing that it was really frustrating when there was on one in the house and i couldn't go really loud like i wanted to, but it depends if you would ever want to go loud.
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Well SS amps especially, really lose sound quality when theyre turned up to their max. So itd be beneficial to you to buy a bigger amp (if we're talking about SS of course) that you dont have to turn up, to keep the sound quality.

If we're talking about tube, you'd want to go with a smaller amp if you like the sound of natural tube break up. A lot of people like this, so maybe a really loud amp wouldnt be great for them. If you get a louder amp with more headroom, itll have to be a lot louder before it breaks up, which some people also prefer.


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If you mean out of your league in price range - I don't know how much the Spiders are but they can't be much less than Valvetronix if they are.

A Vox AD30VT is forty bucks more expensive than a Spider III 30. Get the Vox, you'll definitely love it.