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#1
Anybody here studying psychology? I'm in my senior year in high school and have read the A course, gonna move on to the B course.

I'm just wondering if anybody's ever experienced schizophrenia or know someone who has it or whatever? I really like reading about cases of psycotic diseases - not because it makes me happy about other people's misfortune but because it is very interesting and fascinating how the human mind can conjure up weird things like these hallucinations.

Schizophrenia is something I dind particularly interesting as well... Of yourse you could write anything about psychology here - lik how music affects us psychologically. I'm actually doing a work on that at the moment, it is also very interesting.

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#2
John Nash.

I think I have a very mild case of schizophrenia actually. Sometimes I just feel that the whole world is so different, then suddenly I come back to reality..

Memory has been playing tricks on me too, and everything just seemed to have happened before.

Sometimes it's very painful to not be able to tell the difference between reality, and products of my mind..
#3
whats the definition of it? like what does it cause because i think i have a mild form of it supposibly.
#4
My friend had schizophrenia. But worse, it was paranoid schizophrenia. He tried to commit suicide and managed it on the 3rd attempt. It's a horrible, horriblepsychosis that eats away at you. It is thought that excessive canabis usage lead to the psychosis.
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#5
well schizophrenia - in general terms - is defined by having two or more of the following:

1. Having delusions

2. Hallucinations (any sensory hallucination such as voices, seeing things, smelling things etc. - the two first ones are most common)

3. Desorganized speech

4. Desorganized movement (or catatonic movement)

5. having your will, affection and mental life deteriarated (I think that's the right word)

The symptoms must occur for at least months and if they are a severe case of one of the first two that is enough to diagnose for schizophrenia. Maybe you should see a doctor if you're experiencing problems with psychosis. If you get a psychosis and you get treated right you could or could not fall into schizophrenia...

what do you experience?
#6
LOL. Now every teenage UGer is going to come in here claiming they must have schizophrenia...

Anyways, while I don't do psychology, I too am interested in the disease. How the mind can be so deceiving is truly amazing...
#7
that's terrible to hear dm. I'm sorry for your loss. It is indeed a terrible disease and one can only hope that one does not have any schizophrenia "gene" in oneself (the genetic factor is quite large).

I'm not sure aboutyour cannabis statement though but I do know that any drug taken by a schizophrenic patient is liable to make it worse. Taking psychotic drugs such as LSD, acid or whatever can for sure twist up your mind a lot and make you go into a psychosis. Nothing is ever certain though...

it's quite scary. But there is a great stigma in our society about these illnesses and I think it is very important that people rather learn than judge. Because the people who have them are ill - not crazy.
#8
Well i dunno, i dont always have a grasp on reality and just i dunno fade out alot. and i do loose my place sometimes with words and mix them up, and i mean yer hallucinations are rare for me but sometimes ill just hear someone calling my name when no one is there:S

But yer i actualy was told i have a mild form of it by a psyc but he said nothing dangerous. If ya wanted to know more bout it id be happy to help.
#9
that's weird man... How old are you? do the voices only say your name or dot hey say something else? and how doyou mix up the words?
#10
there just kinda saying my name really thats all, sometimes they sound like my mum, or dad or girlfriend even when im not in the same house or city as any of them. But sometimes they just take on voices i dont know. With the words ill kind of like say the right words but have them in a wrong order, kinda like yoda except it doesnt make sense at all but it only happens sometimes.
#11
I work in a hospital, and occasionally in a mental ward, but when I work in emergency, we have a few mental patients come in from time to time. One of the things that struck me the most about working with most of the mental patients, is that they have behavioural problems too. Like they're told to get up for breakfast at 8:30am, and some of them won't get out of bed, simply because they've been told to. The when breakfast time is over, they'll get up and come and try to get a sandwich or something instead, but they're not allowed.

If the patients act up, they're told off like kids and sent to their rooms, so there's a bit of retraining going on, but if they get too out of hand, we have to restrain them and take them to a seclusion room and leave them for a while, or sedate them and leave them to sleep the "angry" off.

My auntie in England also has paranoid schizophrenia. She's about 50 now, and she's had it from her early 20's, so she knows enough to know when she's having delusions. My mum was over there a couple of months ago, and my auntie wasn't too well then. She thought that the CIA was bugging her phones and had surveillance on her. She knew it was a delusion though, but that didn't seem to help much. My mum was on her computer doing her family tree, and she said she could see my auntie was pretty unsettled about the clicking a beeping going on from it, so my mum turned it off and put it away.

Invictious - I get that lots too. I smoke a lot of pot though, so I imagine it has something to do with that. I get de ja vu a lot, and everyone looks familiar, like I've met them before, through other friends or something. I don't think it's schizophrenia though, I think it's something to do with my cognition. It all goes back to normal when I stop smoking for a while.
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#12
That sounds kind of bizarre with the patients with the behavioral problems and such. And with your aunt - do you think she'll ever get rid of it?


Well that just sounds like it would be the pot I guess, hehe. I suppose the stuff affects your brain the longer it stays in there and the higher concentration of the THC is in there (after all that's where it gets stuck since it is fat-soluble).

BTW can anybody tell me the relationshiop betwen alcohol and fat considering drunkenness? I've heard that if you're fat then you get drunk more easily (or something like that)

off topic I know but since intoxicating substances was on the menu... oh and yeah a late reply to Horvat, did you know that 1 percent of the worlds population experience schizophrenia some time in their life? that's a pretty big number...

just felt like a "did you know"-ass statement... anyway think about it though that's... 60 million people (roughly)... that's like more than the population of spain or sth (anybody seen Supersize Me?

and Dissociative Identity Disorder (split personality disorder) has an occurring percentage of 4 percent (!)

It's weird... when you walk in the city after a whole day (a big city) then you are likely to have passed at least 10-20 people with these two disorders...

I had no idea about this before I started reading about it. hehe
#13
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My friend had schizophrenia. But worse, it was paranoid schizophrenia. He tried to commit suicide and managed it on the 3rd attempt. It's a horrible, horriblepsychosis that eats away at you. It is thought that excessive canabis usage lead to the psychosis.

Especially at a young age.
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#14
Schizophrenia has more recently been realized as a broad category of disorders, rather than one disease.

Some people see delusions, some people just have very disorganized speech and thoughts, some people are catatonic, and some people have a combination of all these.

It's really not very well understood.

There's strong evidence of genetic predispositions to shizophrenia.
#15
i was schizophrenic once, but now we're both ok.


...i'm sorry, it's not normally me who lowers the tone of a thread

but...i did find this interesting. i took philosophy instead of psychology, but psychology sounds like it might be quite intriguing also.
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god i love that song. i find studying autism and bi polar people interesting as well
but then again i also find quantum physics and astronomy interesting as well does this mean that i am a nerd that shreds yet i also spend no time at home so maybe not plus a lack of responsibility and .maturity
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#17
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Maybe you should have studied psychology because then you would have known everything that's wrong with that statement.

I wrote a better reply before but it all got erased because of the internet... hehe bad luch eh?

but shortly - schizophrenia is NOT dissociative personality disorder (split personality).... at all
#18
I too find the mind extremely interesting; that's why I'm pretty interested in drugs (particularly hallucinogenics) in an informative way, not just recreational. If you are seriously interested in schizophrenia and similar illnesses, you'll probably find hallucinogenics interesting as well (possibly for use as well if your interest goes that deep).

And to whoever said that weed causes it, that's typical bullshit. It would trigger it, possibly, in someone who is already genetically predisposed to it. There is zero proof that it causes it at all, especially considering the way weed actually interacts with your brain.
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Maybe you should have studied psychology because then you would have known everything that's wrong with that statement.

I wrote a better reply before but it all got erased because of the internet... hehe bad luch eh?

but shortly - schizophrenia is NOT dissociative personality disorder (split personality).... at all



i did actually know that, but thought i'd throw in an old joke for a laugh, which clearly we're all far too intellectual to enjoy... damn my base sense of humour.

i know someone who's husband had schizophrenia though, and she gets rather upset when people get it wrong as well, so my apologies for polluting the thread


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I too find the mind extremely interesting; that's why I'm pretty interested in drugs (particularly hallucinogenics) in an informative way, not just recreational. If you are seriously interested in schizophrenia and similar illnesses, you'll probably find hallucinogenics interesting as well (possibly for use as well if your interest goes that deep).

And to whoever said that weed causes it, that's typical bullshit. It would trigger it, possibly, in someone who is already genetically predisposed to it. There is zero proof that it causes it at all, especially considering the way weed actually interacts with your brain.


read anything by aldous huxley? brave new world?

hallucinogens can be fun, at times...
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It is thought that excessive canabis usage lead to the psychosis.


True that. I beleive the way I use to (and to this day still do) feel and act was caused by my excessive use of canabis. Some days my mind cant stop thinking over and over (all day long, every waking moment) about everything and anything bad, and or analize everything to its every detail. It's a constent mind set which never stops, this also leads to extreme tension which causes panic attacks. I dont even realize when its happening, and this causes me to be some1 completely different. On these "bad" days I cant hold a single thought in my head, or try to think of a complete sentence without my mind wondering off and becoming what I have discribed above. I damn canabis for this, but in the end ultimetly blame myself. Smoken weed causes damage. Have more self respect for your body and mind, dont do it. You will live a more happy, fuller life. That is all...
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#21
How music affects us phychologically - that would be interesting to read. Of course, provided it was written by specialists who studied the phenomenon extensively and scientifically, not just someone's opinion. If anyone has any reliable references I'd be glad to hear of them.
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#22
my grandpa experienced something like schizophrenia
im not sure what he actually had
i know it wasnt specifically schizophrenia, just some sort of wierd mental condition
anyway,
he had leukemia so he was sick a lot
one time he had a heart attack and somehow that led to some form of psychosis
he recovered from his condition in a few weeks but he had some pretty serious hallucinations

like this one time when my mom was visiting him
he started talking about how his room was overlooking a nascar track
and my sister and i were in the race
it was pretty wierd because according to my mom
he was actually seeing us in our "cars"
like he started pointing out the window to where he saw us and everything

another time when my mom was visiting him
he cheered "HES ALIVE! HES ALIVE! HES ALIVE!"
throwing his fist up in the air for each of these spirited cries
confused, my mom simply asked "whos alive?"
he responded with "Jesus, myself, and my big toe"
#23
In a nutshell, schizophrenia is a mental disorder where you see, hear, and experience things that are not there; you are out of touch with reality at different times and often cannot tell the difference between your hallucinations and reality. You can hear voices (most common), see things that aren't there, and it can be triggered by different feelings/environments, or could just happen periodically (weekly, daily, etc.).
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#24
My aunt's father-in-law had something that could have been similar to schizophrenia. He would have hallucinations of birds he said were trying to peck away at his body, and that toys were alive. He would actually get really scared and hang them up by string, it was kind of sad. he also used to say there were black people out to get him, that you could see the smoke from their fires in the distance and that they wanted to take him away, to their evil party. My aunt told me about all this after he had already died, it was creepy to be honest
#25
My sister and aunt both have paranoid schizophrenia. Doctors have said it could be genetic. Not cool.
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#27
I did psychology as an A-Level last year. Psychopathology was a huge topic that contained 3 modules of OCD, Depression and Schizophrenia. It was interesting. Needless to say, it was also the worst time of my life during my A-level examinations. fucking biological explanations of schizophrenia was a bitch - stupid melotonin and the what not enzymes! However, you could pretty much bullshit your way out of the psychological explanations.
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#29
i read some stuff on schizophrenia. it usually starts around the ages of 20 to 25 when the pressures of life build up. an acute schizophrenia episode is comparable being on PCP or LSD. but the thing is that you're stuck like that 24/7. if you were on drugs it would last what 10 hours? but with schizo its every moment of every single day. even anti-physotic drugs sometimes dont help.

heres a schizophrenia website i found a while back - schizo site
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sometimees i remberer killinf people buit i dont and i think i ddi. i dont go to docter becase my mom says nothins rong
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I was diagnosed two years ago.
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#32
This type of mental illness can be prevented and cured by simple vitamins For example mass amounts of facts and evidence supported omega 3 fatty acids which showed in almost all cases to help and even cure this illness also your vitamin B comlex showed that a defficiancy in that can cause this mental illness.


So...Make sure you are getting these omega 3 and your b vitamins, because a long defficiancy in them can cause such disorders.
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#33
That sounds pretty interesting - but I have never heard of it. COuld you tell me where you found that article or whatever?

I'd like to read abnout it.

I strongly doubt though that when you have had the psychosis for three months and then become diagnosed with schizophrenia that the vitamins would help much. Schizophrenic patients need neuroleptic medicined to control the dopamine receptors in the brain. Or more rightfully BLOCK the dopamine receptors in the brain.


ummmmmm whatelse was I gonna say... oh yeah when I readc about Schiuzophrenia in Microsoft Encarta they showd 3d-images of the brains och one schizophrenic and one "normal" person. Schizophrenic patients' brains are actually really physiologically different because they have a form of - I think this is the right word - alveoles in there. Alveoles are like water-filled containers (I suppose kind of like vacuoles in plant cells). These alveoles disrupt the funktion of the brain, of course, and they are often found in front of the brain at these patient - where association judgement and movement among others are functioning.


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How music affects us phychologically - that would be interesting to read. Of course, provided it was written by specialists who studied the phenomenon extensively and scientifically, not just someone's opinion. If anyone has any reliable references I'd be glad to hear of them.


I'm gonna get back to you with that. I have this I think 21-page paper that studies how we use music in our social life and what not, and I also have a few very good links on the subject.

I will put the paper on my website as soon as I get to school. hehe
#34
Whats becoming a trend now, is people are looking for a scapegoat to place their shortcomings on. There's a commercial now that says, "The odds of your child diagnosed with autism are 1:166." What they should, but forgot to say is, "The odds of your child being diagnosed with ADD are 1:1. It isn't a disorder if everyone shown symptoms."
#35
I'm sorry could you explain the 1:1 part and your explanation of it because it didn't make sense.... at least not to me...

Are you suggesting the common statement that if everyone shows symptoms of a mental disorder, then no one would consider it a disorder because it would be the norm - right?

Then I agree... but still the 1:1 part doesn't make any sense. and ADD and autism differ from each other... very, very much... extremely much as a matter of fact

very different

thank you for your time
#36
http://www.berksmusic.com/whymusic/whymusicaffects.html
http://www.soc.hawaii.edu/LEONJ/459s98/nakagawa/report1.html
http://cogweb.ucla.edu/Abstracts/Music_00.html - biology of music
The websites above are nes related to music and its biological/psychological effect.

The nut in the nutshell is basically about that major music makes us happy, minor makes us sad... I'm going to post the big paper I was tlking about on my website soon I've jsut had a little problem with the webserver... byethost...


also read this article if the above intrigued you=)

http://www.dist.gy.varmdo.se/personal/ville/Engelska%20B/Music%20Is%20Good%20Medicine.pdf/
#37
my friends say i have skitzophrenic tendencies? im really honestly serious, they really say that, dus that mean im like half skitzo?
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#38
dude... see a doctor.

If your friends have not studied any psychology they have nothing to say about schizophrenia. as well ass you need to have the symptoms fopr half a year before you can be diagnosed as such.

If you're experiencing some sort of psychisis - or if someone says you are and is serious about it - see a doctor. A head-doctor that is, not a physician
#39
i should think on that
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#40
I think I have some type of schitzocant****enspellit.
Seriously.
There was this really wierd thing that used to happen to me.
It's hard to explain.
My hearing wen't all wierd
My eyes were darting everywher
I felt really strange
Everything seemed to slow down... but at the same time be faster....
Really freaky. I used to be able to set it off on purpose sometimes.
Hasnt happened for a while..
Last time it did I was playing my guitar.
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