#1
Hey guys,


I've been saving for ages, and I've got around £1000 to spend on new pickups/amp... I realise the amp is the most important thing, so I'm willing to sacrifice pickups if the amp is a little more expensive... Ok, so here's then deal; pickups to go in a Schecter C-1 Blackjack, to play a sort of hybrid of hard/rock/80s metal and hard punk.


Guitar influences:

- Early Metallica ('Justice for All' and 'Ride the Lightning' era.)
- Iron Maiden
- Story of the Year (just the guitarist though, the singer annoys me!)
- Dave Baksh (ex-Sum 41)
- Avenged Sevenfold ('Waking the Fallen' era... I hate the new album...)
- Thrice


That kind of chugging, fast, galloping riffs. I suppose the songs I write for my band are most comparable to Sum41, but I'd like to think my lyrics and vocals are a tad more mature and less poppy, more influenced by the Alkaline Trio, Morrissey, Brand New, etc. However, the overall structure of the songs and style is more post-hardcore/heavy-punk , like Thrice, Alexisonfire, etc.


Sound I'm looking for:

- Very clean, clear, defined and well articulated distortion.
- Good bass and low-mid response.
- Not too inherently gainy or saturated, more a sort of pushed, cranked, cutting sort of gain.


At the moment I'm thinking this:

Pickups: Bareknuckle Miracle Man (bridge), Bareknuckle Cold Sweat (neck)?
Amp: Marshall JCM-800.?
Cab: Mesa Boogie Recto Cab (better bass response... prob, too pricey though?)
OD Pedal: Ibanez Tubescreamer (everyone agree?)


I think the trick to the sound I'm looking for is to boost a lower-gain amp, and try and get all the gain I want before the pre-amp, so it doesn't sound too modern, saturated and gainy, and instead sounds natural but driven and heavy. That's why I chose the Bareknuckles, the JCM-800 and the Tubescreamer. I thought maybe something like a Recto cab would give better bass-response and fatter sound, because JCM-800's are quite middy... But they are prob too expensive for my budget, so I might need more cab suggestions...

Agree/disagree? Thoughts? Thanks guys.
Last edited by cam_rock at Jan 12, 2007,
#2
I like fat chugging rhythms, only I like 'em with a bit of gain, like Sum 41 and The Darkness. If you push an amp hard, I think you can achieve that.

Marshalls are famous for their midrange 'roar'. I would suggest that. Probably a DSL50, or a JCM800 if you don't mind murdering your neighbours with the sheer volume. I would suggest a power attenuator aswell.

As for cabs, there's this brand called Basson, which are reasonably priced and have a unique tone: they're built super strong and the cab is inflexible, so they get a very tight and focused sound, so you get this crisp attack with every chord (hence the term "balls", as said in Guitar World)

As for pedals, I don't use any. I prefer to drive amps naturally. A Blackjack into a marshall would get some pretty good distortion.
#3
I guess jcm 800, or one of the other amps aimed at that tone- peavey windsor (if you can find a jcm800, though, it's probably better), splawn quick rod (over budget, but perhaps worth a look), something like that.

The recto cab will put you way over budget, it's like £800, and will likely sound too modern.

I guess, is that £1000 flexible at all?
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#4
Not really... To be honest, I was being generous there hehe. That's really my ceiling.
#5
The ibanez tube screamer yes. Is it the vintage reissue? cause that's what i got, and it sounds great. But get the reissue TS-7 if anything.
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#6
^ the ts7 is the shittier one.

I'd go second hand jcm800, probably a marshall cab, maybe a maxon od808, and the bareknuckles.
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#7
Get a Marshall 1960 cab, you can find it used for as low as 200 quid and they're quite good. For amp-driven distorion, being in the UK and all that, you should really look into Laney's - the GH or TT series; probably the GH if you're looking for heavier sound. They're great amps and the price on them is not too great.

A power attenuator is probably a must for you as well, if you're looking for the 'natural' overdrive as opposed to pre-amp gain. If you were going my way, you could get a new GH head for about 400ish, the cab for another 400 - or 250 if you're getting a used one; that'd still leave you plenty cash for a good attenuator and whatever pickups you might be looking at.
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#8
Definitely look at a JCM800. It fits around your influences more than anything.
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