shredmeiser101
bomb-chika-wah-wow
Join date: Jun 2006
2,706 IQ
#1
So i'm very new to the hardcore music scene. Im a freshman in highschool and my brother's friend (a junior) recruited me on guitar for his new hardcore band. So i've jammed with him a couple times and he explained the guitar style to me. I picked it up pretty quick but I could use some help. First of all, he told me there are chords called "hardcore noises", he showed me one but I would like to know as many as possible. I would also like to know a lot of the terminology and guitar "staples" of hardcore music (I know what breakdowns are), so...can anyone help me?
Quote by Sir-Shoelace
manliest string guage? barbed wire.

Founder Of the UG Slide Player's Guild, PM me If You're Really Feelin' Dem Blues

THE PIT
"better than your average psychiatrist"
cman138
UG's Music Therapist
Join date: Dec 2005
303 IQ
#2
You don't need to know anything about guitar to play in a hardcore band, because they require minimal talent
alienboy18241
Registered User
Join date: May 2006
450 IQ
#3
^^Yup, just get on stage and jump around and go crazy. About 75% of the crowd won't know you have no idea how to play.
My Gear:
Peavey 6505+
Marshall 1960B
Schecter Hellraiser Avenger
Ibanez VBT700
Marshall Guv'nor
Marshall Echohead
Morley Tremonti Wah
Boss TU-2
Boss NS-2
Avatar 2x12
EHX Holy Grail Reverb
Furman SPB 8C
Boss Flange
revan1013
Registered User
Join date: Jul 2006
512 IQ
#4
Nice how much respect players have for each other eh? I'd help if I could, but I really don't know much about Hardcore except that it's like a wall of noise. Though I remember hearing the drums and bass and not the guitarist at all the concerts.
pitbull510
UG's real man
Join date: Jul 2005
698 IQ
#5
Quote by cman138
You don't need to know anything about guitar to play in a hardcore band, because they require minimal talent

in agree, hardcore is about making lots of noise, that's why they call it hardcore.
Quote by raise_the_dead
Technical farts in odd time signatures?

WTF do you eat?



Quote by metabolicmaggot
Wow these answers scare me....I've swallowed some of that suff....I need a shower.
SchecterFreak
Reasonable A7X fan!
Join date: Mar 2006
529 IQ
#6
i play a lot of hardcore so ask a question more specifically so i can answer if i give you a general overview it won't do you much good. do you want to know about techniques or teminology? the terms won't help unless you can do the techniques. so let me know!
heavy support of A7X army pm Copius
Quote by spl3001
I think we can all really agree that nothing is more metal than playing a Telecaster....On fire.

Quote by GiantRaven
The rest of the album is brilliant but that one song just really gets right on my tits for some reason
pmeg568c
UG Spammer
Join date: May 2003
5,502 IQ
#7
Quote by pitbull510
in agree, hardcore is about making lots of noise, that's why they call it hardcore.


ok...yea.

but it depends what hardcore you playing. if its metalcore ish you might need to be decent but if its just straight hardcore its probably just powerchords and a few riffs here and there
Quote by shakin'cakes
First of all, I enjoy deathcore for it's complexity and it's the only genre heavy enough for me



Quote by Highway60Bob
I want an amp good for playing hippie tunes. I want it to be an actual amp, not a tube amp.
StuartR
Registered User
Join date: Apr 2004
571 IQ
#8
The first five replies are terrible.

Just power chords for Hardcore. Never heard of a Hardcore Noise, maybe he means a dischord or a pinch harmonic, but you won't find them often in Hardcore.
kaktusnpoop
Back in Action on the UG
Join date: Aug 2005
1,057 IQ
#9
yeah the first couple of kids who replied obviously don't know what the hell they are talking about and post in the metal forum

not to mention of the dudes has limp bizkit as his avatar

i mean, come the **** on
SchecterFreak
Reasonable A7X fan!
Join date: Mar 2006
529 IQ
#10
yeah learn some trivium, amon amarth, a7x, arch enemy, stuff like that will get you started!
heavy support of A7X army pm Copius
Quote by spl3001
I think we can all really agree that nothing is more metal than playing a Telecaster....On fire.

Quote by GiantRaven
The rest of the album is brilliant but that one song just really gets right on my tits for some reason
Job 4 a Cowboy
Registered User
Join date: Nov 2006
491 IQ
#11
Lookup breakdowns on wikipedia, that will get you an idea of how to play them
just pick a chord and palm mute basically for a breakdown.

it really depends on what type of "hardcore" you are doing. I really can't help you with more traditional hardcore playing, but for metalcore and deathcore I can give you a few pointers
SchecterFreak
Reasonable A7X fan!
Join date: Mar 2006
529 IQ
#12
like we have already said. it is easier for some one to help you learn a style if you ahve questions so they can be answered fully!
heavy support of A7X army pm Copius
Quote by spl3001
I think we can all really agree that nothing is more metal than playing a Telecaster....On fire.

Quote by GiantRaven
The rest of the album is brilliant but that one song just really gets right on my tits for some reason
CaptainOfSmug
Morbid Mushroom
Join date: Oct 2006
1,360 IQ
#14
Quote by StuartR
For the love of Satan, don't learn breakdowns!

Can you spell "played out"?


For the love of satan DO learn breakdowns. People are very ignorant when it comes ot this subject. Mostly metal people in the metal forums. They say breakdowns are what make hardcore when really, their favorite death metal bands use them all the time. Anyways, hardcore is fairly easy and simplified. Metalcore is more technical, it all really depends on the player. If you can get through some lamb of god songs very quickly you have nothing to worry about.
FAN OF EMPEROR ?

Quote by Magero
Theres more of us it wont be long before we you over the world and you can burn all the churchs you want


I'm MAD about Black Metal. Ask me about Church Burnings.
STABxYOU
Keeps Punk Rock Elite
Join date: Dec 2006
982 IQ
#15
Quote by SchecterFreak
yeah learn some trivium, amon amarth, a7x, arch enemy, stuff like that will get you started!


All of those are metal bands. Lame metal bands.

Hardcore ranges from really simple to rather complex.

Old school hardcore, powerviolence, tough-guy hardcore, stuff like that tends to be simple, The Dillinger Escape Plan not so much. Start with power chords, then some simple single note riffs, then some octave chords and build from there.

By 'hardcore noises' I'm assuming you mean some variety of high pitched modified power chords, or octave chords?
Last edited by STABxYOU at Jan 13, 2007,
shredmeiser101
bomb-chika-wah-wow
Join date: Jun 2006
2,706 IQ
#16
i talked to him about how i didn't want our music to be like every other hardcore band, lot's of random noise. We're gonna go for a more precise, pantera or alice in chains guitar sound.
BTW why are people going on the hardcore forum just to trash hardcore? bunch of ignorant asses.
Quote by Sir-Shoelace
manliest string guage? barbed wire.

Founder Of the UG Slide Player's Guild, PM me If You're Really Feelin' Dem Blues

THE PIT
"better than your average psychiatrist"
martyr
Registered User
Join date: May 2004
627 IQ
#18
Camo shorts/ athletic shorts.

Basketball team jersey/ Basball T-shirt

Baseball hat/ Short short hair


They're pretty much jocks.
Listen to my music here
shai_savant
Registered User
Join date: May 2005
212 IQ
#19
this thread is rediculous i don't think that hardcore was ever meant to be tought through a message board....listen to the music and figure it out yourself
How can I keep Stability
On such shaky ground?
Prayers that a smile will flag me down.