#1
> I recently got an Epiphone Valve Junior all-tube amp, my first tube amp. When I got it, the fellow I was purchasing it from demonstrated how it sounds exactly like his 1938 Epiphone amp. That was interesting. But this ****er is LOUD! To get natural overdrive, I'd have to turn it up to volumes that you'd here halfway down the black. Just turning it halfway up, you can here the amp from across the street. This is UNACCEPTABLE.

This amp has GREAT tone, but I cannot reach natural overdrive levels without having police showing up at my door. Any solutions that wouldn't require monetary investments? I have a TS-808 Tubescreamer, a 7 band EQ pedal, and nothing else that would be particularly useful. The Tubescreamer isn't giving me the amps natural distortion. Any ideas? If not, care to share how you can reach natural overdrive levels with your tube amp?

If I buffered it with towels, and put the amp in a couple cardboard boxes, would I get any reasonable reduction in volume (without getting terrible muffled tone)?

I can't even imagine reaching breakup levels with a 60< watt tube amp. According to what I read, a 5 watt tube amp is 50% as loud as a 50 watt tube amp. Good God... Cheers.
#2
well just get a vox 15 wat ,its perfect
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#3
Quote by sirlimecat
well just get a vox 15 wat ,its perfect

That's not a tube amp, and has no relevence to the discussion.
#4
it is a tube amp a valve and a tube are the same thing...
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#6
have a look see if anyones managed to make a mod for more overdrive, with less gain. Or a hotplate might help
#7
use headphones then turn it up to 10?
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use headphones then turn it up to 10?



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#9
The only sutable solution I can think of is getting an autenator device, their pretty expensive, but they'll work with all amps you are ever going to buy.

You should take a look here: http://www.tedweber.com/atten.htm

The speaker motor models tend to draw verry little tone out of your amp, so they are prefered, but the resitor models are cheaper but draw a lot of tone at high levels.

And DO NOT ever disconnect the speaker and use a headphone. You'll blow your transformers and damdge your ears, if there is any sound coming through the headphones
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Quote by Def
have a look see if anyones managed to make a mod for more overdrive, with less gain. Or a hotplate might help


There is a mod to add a master volume knob, which should do the trick.

Otherwise, enjoy the sound of your TS808, and only crank the amp when no one's around to bother.
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#11
You don't to use headphones with a tube amp....

Quote by sirlimecat
it is a tube amp a valve and a tube are the same thing...


The Valvetronix is not a tube amp. It is not. No.

I'm aware of various mods, but I don't have any money for anything like that right now. I guess I'll have to get an isolation cabinet when I get some money. :l
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Quote by spittle8
The Valvetronix is not a tube amp. It is not. No.


Yes, but it is also not a valve amp lol
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Quote by spittle8
I'm aware of various mods, but I don't have any money for anything like that right now.


Take a look at the gear building forum.

If you have access to a soldering iron and some confidence, you should be able to put in a master for under $10.
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#14
that weird. i have a 50 watt tube amp and i turn up to 6 all the time.
but it still have the year old power tubes in it...
are you over exaggerating, or does my amp just suck ass?
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that weird. i have a 50 watt tube amp and i turn up to 6 all the time.
but it still have the year old power tubes in it...
are you over exaggerating, or does my amp just suck ass?


Your amp probably has a more audio-tapered volume control- which means it will stay reasonably quiet from 0 to 6 or 7 and then get ungodly loud from 7 to 10. The more linear taper of the Epi means it gets louder sooner on the knob.
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Quote by danzig-_-
that weird. i have a 50 watt tube amp and i turn up to 6 all the time.
but it still have the year old power tubes in it...
are you over exaggerating, or does my amp just suck ass?

Same here, 50 watt tube amp and I regularly turn it up past halfway without any complaints from neighbors. Threadstarter, have you actually checked the volume outside your house? It probably can't be heard (at levels that would be annoying) halfway down the block unless you point your cab out an open window.
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#17
master volume/get used to it

a 300 dollar attenuator on a 5 watt amp that cost about a hundred dollars is kinda...no.
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Quote by danzig-_-
that weird. i have a 50 watt tube amp and i turn up to 6 all the time.
but it still have the year old power tubes in it...
are you over exaggerating, or does my amp just suck ass?

I quite literally agree with your signature.

I've turned a 100 watt tube amp past 3, and it wasn't yet deafening. A 50 watt tube amp will generally get pretty nasty around 3 or 4, after which, I have little experience. It depends on the amp, in my experience. But, yes, that seems a bit strange. Like I said, my 5 watt tube amp is audible outside my house if I turn it past 5. Maxed, the volume is ridiculously loud. That's my dilemma.

Thanks for your advice, everyone. I'm aware of the various mods, I was just wondering what I could do right now, without any modifications or money. Hahahaha. Cheers.
#19
Do you have the combo or the head and a cab?
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#20
The combo. The combo is actually louder than playing with the volume knob (on the Epi) maxed through a Marshall tube cabinet. That disturbed me slightly...
#21
I've got a 50 watter, it's not really too loud.

Anyways, attenuator, or just blast it. Come on man, it's rock 'n roll!
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Quote by sirlimecat
it is a tube amp a valve and a tube are the same thing...


Well is you specified what Vox then we would know what you meant... Vox do hybrids aswell..
#24
Quote by spittle8
The combo. The combo is actually louder than playing with the volume knob (on the Epi) maxed through a Marshall tube cabinet. That disturbed me slightly...


You're just being a pussy.

But seriously man, the combo isn't that loud, I play it cranked up all the time and my neighbours (or even my family) never complain, despite the fact that I live in a semi-detatched house.

Really, if you can't crank up a 5 watt valve amp without bitching then maybe you should stick with SS.

The only plausible way to reduce the volume would be to add a master volume pot, but then you'd still lose the power amp OD.
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Well is you specified what Vox then we would know what you meant... Vox do hybrids aswell..


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#26
I never play with the volume below 12 o'clock on my 6 watt Champ, and that's not too loud. I can turn it up all the way without the neighbours complaining (my parents are a whole different issue ).

I think the thread starter is exaggerating a bit.
#27
either do the master volume mod, or else try setting your ts808 up with the level on full, drive/gain/od on 0, and tone around noon.
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I've got a 50 watter, it's not really too loud.

Anyways, attenuator, or just blast it. Come on man, it's rock 'n roll!

I appreciate that, but none of you likely live in Detroit. I don't want to attract more attention to myself than necessary, because I'm a white speck living in a black sea. The houses here are thin and dinky, and I checked personally on it, and when I have the volume at 6, it is quite audible on the sidewalk. Approaching 8, the volume is obnoxiously loud outside. I have personally confirmed this. I am not exagerating. Cheers.
#29
i second/triple the motion of getting a master volume. its kinda handy.
i turn the master volume to about 12 0'clock, then mess with the level knob accordingly. it gets pretty hardcore tone at low volumes.
or use your guitars volume. crank the amp, with full distortion, then level down your guitars volume. should give a cool overdriven sound with crunch.
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#30
funny, the master volume trick really doesnt improve the od/tone on my dsl-401. Yet i keep seeing everyone say they use it as a alternative to attenuator
#31
^ ?

the VJ has no way of getting overdrive at low volumes. It's not a way to improve the tone, it's a way to get OD at lower volumes.
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#32
Set your amp to max volume

Tube screamer = gain etc 0
Volume on 1 or 2 (depends)

EQ pedal - whatever
#34
maybe a pentod/triode switch to lower the wattage/ voltage. Kerry (1800ksmyazz) put on e in his and it is quieter with better overdrive at lower volumes.

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