#1
My friend is making a 5 string bass. Due to hard work, hes making it fretless. I always thaught fretless were mostly for jazz. We (im his drummer and guitarist) play metal. Is he wasting his time making this guitar because i dont think its gunna sound great for metal. Its not that im really worried about him wasting his time and money, i just wanna laugh in his face when(if) it sounds like shit. lol
#4
How do frets have anything to do with tone?


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How do frets have anything to do with tone?


fretless basses sound way different then fretted ones, not to mention slides and vibrato r much different as well. do u think some people play a fretless just cuz its more dificult? does that make any sense to u?
#6
Playing metal? You're all making terrible, terrible mistakes. *shakes head*

But seriously, I would hope he's building the bass for the sake of building it. Let him build whatever the hell he wants.

And fretless basses can and are used in metal, they have a distinct, blossoming sound that can actually compliment retardedly distorted guitars. And if it doesn't end up sounding great for metal, he still has a bass he built himself, and you have jack shit. Bet he'll laugh.

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Playing metal? You're all making terrible, terrible mistakes. *shakes head*


got that right
#9
Oh i dont have jack shit, ive already built a guitar, not a bass but then again im not a bassist. And our guitars arent retardedly distorted, i shouldnt have said metal, he plays metal but out band plays more heavy rock like disturbed, and we also lean toward B4MV (laugh it up i dont give a **** if there emo) a lot.
#10
Oh stereotypes, stereotypes, think outside the box! How cool would a five-string fretless bass sound if played well? Who cares what most ppl use for metal, you use that, it's your charm and you gimick, it'll work! Have faith in your friend.
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Oh stereotypes, stereotypes, think outside the box! How cool would a five-string fretless bass sound if played well? Who cares what most ppl use for metal, you use that, it's your charm and you gimick, it'll work! Have faith in your friend.


Yeah seriously, do you want to be just like any other hard rock band out there? Or do you want to have a different sound? Having a fretless bass will give you more of a different sound for bass leads, fills, whatever else you put in a song.
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#13
Robert Trujillo uses a fretless a bit in Suicidal Tendencies. If you haven an open definition of metal, it can work. It just depends on your outlook.
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#16
Don't be hatin on that homie, dawg. But seriously, fretless sounds frikin cool in metal, it's not necessarily the bright thrashy kind of bass you would normally want for metal, but look at Pantera, Rex played a fretless in a couple of there songs and it was bad
#17
I think he should experiment with it. that way he doesn't become a stereotype. besides like they say, he could have another bass in case he decides to drop you guys. for a jazz/fusion band........ ya never know.
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#20
Listen to anything Steve DiGiorgio, Dominic "Forest" LaPointe, or Sean Malone have played on. They all play fretless basses, in metal. The tone cuts through quite well.
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Playing metal? You're all making terrible, terrible mistakes. *shakes head*

But seriously, I would hope he's building the bass for the sake of building it. Let him build whatever the hell he wants.

And fretless basses can and are used in metal, they have a distinct, blossoming sound that can actually compliment retardedly distorted guitars. And if it doesn't end up sounding great for metal, he still has a bass he built himself, and you have jack shit. Bet he'll laugh.



i must say i was thinking what is in bold and i lol'd whats underlined
#22
Tell him if anyone ever gives him shit for using a fretless in a metal band to shove a Steve DiGiorgio album in their face.
#23
Finally, all the Steve DiGiorgio fans are coming out. It is a great day in the bass forum.
#24
LOL Yeah, Steve Digiorgio is an excellent Bassist and musician (yeah thats right smart arses that listen to Punk and what, and stir sh*t up), and the point of the tone being unique and cutting through is a very valid one. Tell him to go for it and don't hesitate, just make sure he practices a lot to get the notes sounding out properly some when he plays some fast riffs it doesn't sound off.
#26
Good for him!!!! Metal needs more fretless bassists, I think anyway.

I love the sound of fretless basses but I'm nowhere near good enough (read confident enough) to even attempt to play one. Also harmonics on a freless sound utterly BEAUT!!!!
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#27
somebody said the guy sform tool uses a fretless.
wrong-o

Re:topic

dude, bombs away
innovation is cool
and i mean, in a sense, the 1*10^8
"wah pedal problem" threads made by people playing metal on UG
fretless sound kind of = to wah sound.
so i mean.
go for it.

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somebody said the guy sform tool uses a fretless.
wrong-o


You're wrong.

"Justin has 4 Wals:
2 24-fret Mach II 4 strings w/ birdseye maple facings
1 24-fret Mach II 4 string w/ birdseye maple facings and greenburst finish
1 24-fret Mach II 4 string w/ American walnut facings*

* I thought this was the fretless he used on that one passage in Lateralus, but I've seen several pictures of it, with frets."

Then as a reply to the insinuation that the walnut Mach II is fretted,

"The fretless WAL he has is a lined fretless, It looked like it had frets but, Upon closer inspection, And an interview, He said he had it with no lines at first, but had trouble playing it so he took it to have it lined. "

This is all from tooltabs.net.

And otherwise, fretless basses...they usually don't sound like you have a wah on. Do you even play a fretless bass, or are you just assuming things?
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#29
Quote by DiabloCoche
somebody said the guy sform tool uses a fretless.
wrong-o

Re:topic

dude, bombs away
innovation is cool
and i mean, in a sense, the 1*10^8
"wah pedal problem" threads made by people playing metal on UG
fretless sound kind of = to wah sound.
so i mean.
go for it.



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#30
yea, i'm just as confused.
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