#1
I spent almost all of my money to get a really nice amp, Marshall JCM 2000 DSL half stack. So now i'm left with almost no cash left to get a guitar with, i was told to get a nice amp first. So i was wondering if you guys had any ideas for any guitars that would be good for around 300 US dollars. I was looking at the Ibanez RG2EX1 but i had never seen it before. I play metal and occasionally help my friends grindcore band. I had been borrowing a guitar for a few years but now he needs that back. any help would be awesome.
#2
Depends what you want to use it for.

If you don't use a whammy bar, look at an Ibanez RG321.

Decent beginner guitar, stable tuning, no worries
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#3
So you don't have a guitar at all at the moment?

If you do have another guitar, save up a bit more.
#4
does it have a wizard neck? if so go for it, and your amp should make up for the low quality, if applicable of you guitar.
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Well, look at it this way. A squier will sound decent through a good amp, but a 58 Les Paul will sound like a$$ through a lousy amp.
#6
I have a guitar for about another week......and then i have to buy books for college, so i have 300 available. it has a Wizard II neck and a fixed bridge because i have no use for a whammy bar.
#7
Then the Ibanez is for you, man You can just switch the pickups out later if you want with some Seymour Duncans or EMGs or something to enhance the tone, since it's already made from mahogany.
Then there's this band called Slice The Cake...

Bunch of faggots putting random riffs together and calling it "progressive" deathcore.
Stupid name.
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#8
If you have no guitar yet, why did you spend so much to get a DSL half stack? For that money, you could have gotten a pretty decent combo amp and a nice guitar. Makes no sense why you did that. Now you have to wait around for the guitar wasting time that you could be learning to play instead of trying to look like a star with an amp that is waaaay too much for a beginner. You young guys are more wrapped up in looking like a rock star than spending the time to actually perform like one. This should be posted in the dumbest advice i've ever been given thread. "I was told it's best to get a good amp first"?????? What the F@&k are you going to do with a good amp and no guitar? That's like buying a set of 24" spinners for a car you don't know that you're going to get when you're 10!!!
#9
he did that because people around here go and talk shit about how crappy the MG series is etc.

People also keep giving the advice which is to go out and get a sweet amp and get the guitar/upgrade guitar later. All he really did was take the majority's advice and do just that.


Personally, I didn't give any advice. Look on the brightside, you have a sweet amp ha ha.
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#10
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Now you have to wait around for the guitar wasting time that you could be learning to play instead of trying to look like a star with an amp that is waaaay too much for a beginner.


I play metal and occasionally help my friends grindcore band. I had been borrowing a guitar for a few years but now he needs that back.


Maybe he isn't a beginner. And if he is, whats wrong with having a good amp? Is there a level you need to reach before you can buy good gear? And he said he has $300 for the guitar, so he doesn't need to wait.
#11
we normally say to spend most of your money on an amp, but this is maybe taking things a bit far.

that being said, take a look at the ibanez rg321mh, yamaha pacificas (at least 112, preferably 412 if it's under budget), yamaha aes series (if under budget), and ibanez sz series (again, if under budget).
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he did that because people around here go and talk shit about how crappy the MG series is etc.

People also keep giving the advice which is to go out and get a sweet amp and get the guitar/upgrade guitar later. All he really did was take the majority's advice and do just that.


Personally, I didn't give any advice. Look on the brightside, you have a sweet amp ha ha.


1st off, I've never seen anyone recommend a JCM2000 half stack as someones 1st amp. Especially, if the person doesn't even actually have a guitar. He probably took advice that he saw for someone else in a different situation, most likely someone who already had a guitar AND amp and was looking to upgrade from their old practice amp to something they could gig with.
#13
I'm sorry, but a $2000+ half stack with a $300 guitar? Makes no sense to me. You could have gotten a $1000 kick ass 100 watt combo and have $1300 for a kick ass guitar. My point is he got a JCM2000 because he thinks that looks impressive on a stage, in his room, whatever, whereas you can spend 300 on a cheap guitar that looks good and has a name on it as well. If that was a good match, all the pros would play that. A good amp is essential, but a great guitar makes the biggest playing difference. Unless that is, you just bang on it and all you want out of it is loud distortion, then i guess you made a brilliant choice. There aren't many better noisemakers than a JCM2000.
#14
Did anyone ACTUALLY read what he said,

he said for the past couple of years he borrowed someones guitar, now they want it back, so one would assume he has been playing for at least a couple years.

AND he also said he already helps out in his friends grindcore band...I would assume he can play at least semi-decent...
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Did anyone ACTUALLY read what he said,

he said for the past couple of years he borrowed someones guitar, now they want it back, so one would assume he has been playing for at least a couple years.


Exactly... he doesn't have his own guitar.

AND he also said he already helps out in his friends grindcore band...I would assume he can play at least semi-decent...


And...

I've known plenty of people who played for X amount of years and were in a band, didn't mean they could actually play and be worth listening to.
#16
Shut up bitching, if you don't like the fact that he has an amp thats more expensive then yours then stop trolling, go bug another thread.
A temporary guitar for about $300?
I agree with the people saying Ibanez. Better than a squier eh
#18
You still sound like a whiney, prepubescent child, however.
Leave the guy alone.
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#20
I am a believer in having a great guitar and great amp. That being said, I have a SRV Strat and I have seen and heard people on way cheaper and worse guitars than mine sound way way better than me!

A good player can really make a guitar sing even if is a $300 ibanez. Which by the way is nice guitar.

A suggestion I would make since the threadstarter seems to feel he may be settling for a lesser guitar would be to pick up a second hand guitar in the local paper and check out some pawn shops. THere are a lot of people who spend money on nice guitars and quit playing.

I have seen some good deals on ebay but I am not a fan of buying a guitar that you cant touch and play and check out each and every fret and all pickups.
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#23
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If you have no guitar yet, why did you spend so much to get a DSL half stack? For that money, you could have gotten a pretty decent combo amp and a nice guitar. Makes no sense why you did that. Now you have to wait around for the guitar wasting time that you could be learning to play instead of trying to look like a star with an amp that is waaaay too much for a beginner. You young guys are more wrapped up in looking like a rock star than spending the time to actually perform like one. This should be posted in the dumbest advice i've ever been given thread. "I was told it's best to get a good amp first"?????? What the F@&k are you going to do with a good amp and no guitar? That's like buying a set of 24" spinners for a car you don't know that you're going to get when you're 10!!!



Dude, you didn't even read the thread did you? The guy's been playing for a few years on a borrowed rig, he's already in a band and now he needs a new guitar and amp cos he had to give it back. The reason he didn't get a combo is because it sounds like he's playing metal gigs with his friends band, and if you've spent much time going to underground metal gigs you'll know that their consideration is mainly volume. A $300 dollar guitar plugged into a $1000 stack is pretty typical allocation of funds. I'm going to metalcore gigs every fri night at the moment, and I always wear ear plugs

Oh alright, if it will make you feel better U 0Wnd da n00b ok? Feel like you have a bigger **** now?
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#24
Wow. I don't know why anyone would go buy a DSL half stack as a first amp. That's insane. Seriously, as was said before, you could have bought yourself a decent tube combo that would be just as gig-worthy as that DSL, been more portable, AND still leave you with $1000 to buy a good guitar to pair with the amp.

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#25
First off cosimo, if you know anything, a JCM2000 is not a $1000 rig. Try double that. Secondly he says he helps out, helps out occasionally in a grindcore? band. So he probably already has a rig he uses as well. Thirdly, he said he was told blah, blah, so this leads me to believe he doesn't have as much experience as you seem to give him credit. And lastly I don't claim to have a bigger wang than anybody, but I bet mine gets used way more than some dude who has his own house and needs a dude to move in with him so he can have a beat whenever he wants it. I'm not trying to rip the original poster to pieces, just don't post such insane topics without expecting to get some harsh response. I'm sorry, but if anyone is trying to make everyone believe he has a huge ####, the guy with a $2000 half stack with a $300 guitar would be that guy.

And Crunchmeister, it's nice to see another sensible person on this post.
#27
threadstarter. i really dont care what ur first amp is. so ill pretend u said cube 30 and answer ur question as best i can.

if i had $300, and wanted humbuckers i would buy a schecter omen. it's basswood, the stock pickups sound pretty good and it's a fixed bridge, so u dont have to worry about low end trems.

good luck.
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#28
one......not my first amp, just an amp that gets enough volume to punch over the drums and the other guitarists rivera head.

two......I'm not saying i'm a great guitarist, but i can hold my own with the people that i play with and thats all that matters to me.

three.....this 300 dollar ibanez would (hopefully) be a temp guitar till i can get a nicer guitar, i was just hoping someone had played it and could let me know if it was a piece of shit and i should go for one of the others in range, or if it would be fine for a while.

I've had the amp for a few months and thought i would have use of that guitar longer then i did, thus making me be short of funds. If i didn't have to play shows then i wouldn't get it but i do so i'm hoping it will work.
#29
Yeah I should have edited that, I do know what those heads are worth. I also mean no disrespect to your ****, I'm sure you get lots of compliments on it.

I'm still not convinced that playing a cheap guitar through a brilliant amp isn't a bad approach to metalcore. All they need is lots of gain on the amp, and a guitar with a couple of ok humbuckers or actives so they can bar the bottom three strings in drop A and slide it around for a while. Occasionally someone plays something really fast using the top two strings at about the 16th fret then it's back to sliding those bottom three around. How good does the guitar need to be?
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#30
I'd try the 321 before just ordering or picking it off the shelf and paying. When I stopped in a store to try out a few amps, there was a guy trying out one amp I was interested in. He was playing a 321, so I tried the amp with the 321. Alright guitar for the price, but the feel of the necks aren't consistent. The one the guy was playing had a few dead spots past the 12 fret. It's worth checking out. Stop in whatever music store is nearby. Just don't get suckered into a Squier or BC Rich.
#31
i never played that exact $300 ibanez, but ive played several basswood and agathis ibanez in that price range.

i like the schecter pickups and neck feel better, but i would think that RG would be worth the $300.
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#32
epiphone deluxe sg,there nice man, there 300 where i live with a hardshell case...so ya thts wat id go with
#33
The RG2EX1 is a great guitar for 300 bucks. I highly recommend it.
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#34
Look at some low end Hamers... they're great guitars for the money.
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#35
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AND he also said he already helps out in his friends grindcore band...I would assume he can play at least semi-decent...


I should sig that, seriously.

You might be able to save money on buying a guitar with only the top 2 strings, as your not gunna need any more for grindcore.
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#36
give me the Maeshall and just buy a casio keyboard I second the RONDO Music "Agile" Idea - I have 5 amps now and 1 Agile (well there is an old washburn Lyon in the closet) and I'm fine...
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