#1
Looking for a 4x12 cabinet to compliment a 1978 Marshall JMP. I use a Rickenbacker 330, the tones with the Rickenbacker and the JMP are the best I've ever heard. Was playing on a 1960A Marshall cab when I was testing it out, though I was wondering if I could get some recommendations for cabinets as I'm not sure what to go with, though I'm thinking the 1960AV (Vintage 30s) Marshall 4x12. I play alternative, indie, and experimental type stuff, of course a little rock as well.
#2
marshall is good, but you can get an avatar 4x12 (or even a 2x12) for a lot less, and it still has vintage 30s.

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#3
get a cab with greenbacks or with REAL vintage speakers, like a marshall '70 cab.
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#4
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marshall is good, but you can get an avatar 4x12 (or even a 2x12) for a lot less, and it still has vintage 30s.

www.avatar.com


Found http://www.avatarspeakers.com

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get a cab with greenbacks or with REAL vintage speakers, like a marshall '70 cab.


Greenbacks only add up to 100w.
#6
yeah a 1960 series marshall cab will definitely do it justice. esp w/vintage 30s though actually i prefer greenbacks over V30s and what wattage is your head?
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yeah a 1960 series marshall cab will definitely do it justice. esp w/vintage 30s though actually i prefer greenbacks over V30s and what wattage is your head?

50w. Was the best amp they had in the store. (guitarcenter)
#9
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yeah, id go for a 1960 cab with greenbacks, that will fucking scream.

Is there a modern day model that comes with greenbacks?
#10
hmm in not sure, but you could easily buy a used one and throw some greenback in it. or avatar might make one with greenbacks.
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hmm in not sure, but you could easily buy a used one and throw some greenback in it. or avatar might make one with greenbacks.

Yeah, saw in a custom option on avatar for greenbacks, vintage 30s and a lot more. The only problem I have with the greenbacks is the 25w rather than the 75w of the Celestians.
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Yeah, saw in a custom option on avatar for greenbacks, vintage 30s and a lot more. The only problem I have with the greenbacks is the 25w rather than the 75w of the Celestians.


for a 50 watt head 4 25 watt speakers would be much better IMO because youll actually be able to get speaker breakup if you want it.
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for a 50 watt head 4 25 watt speakers would be much better IMO because youll actually be able to get speaker breakup if you want it.

Speaker breakup?
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yeah its kind of a fuzz sound, its basically what fuzz pedals try to emulate.
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yeah its kind of a fuzz sound, its basically what fuzz pedals try to emulate.

I guess I'm confused, never heard of speaker breakup, though it sounds like with greenbacks I will get it, but its a fuzz that pedals try and get rid of?
#17
no its what a fuzz pedal tries to sound like, and you shouldnt have too much of a problem controlling it with a 50 watt amp.
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no its what a fuzz pedal tries to sound like, and you shouldnt have too much of a problem controlling it with a 50 watt amp.

Ohh, emulate, not eliminate. Got it. Would there be a way to mix and match speakers? Not sure how 100w will do with a few of the shows I've played before.
#19
you only have 50 watts of power, the wattage of your speakers has very little effect on volume (and actually lower rated speakers tend to be a little louder.) and 50 watts of tube power through a 4x12 will be very very loud.
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Quote by Kid_Thorazine
you only have 50 watts of power, the wattage of your speakers has very little effect on volume (and actually lower rated speakers tend to be a little louder.) and 50 watts of tube power through a 4x12 will be very very loud.

You can probably tell I'm new to heads and cabs, been using a combo for a while.

As of right now, I'm considering the Avatar custom G412 4x12 (green tolex, wheat grille) with 4 greenbacks. Though, the G412 vintage has the two top speakers angled so they're pointed more towards the player, a huge advantage?
#21
it disperses the sound a little better and helps eliminate some phase cancellation but i wouldnt call it a huge advantage.
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#22
I will check my JMP, but is it safe to assume you'd do an 8 ohm hookup for the single cab? And with two cabs you'd switch the cabs to 16 ohm?
#23
iyeah i think thats right, i always get impedance matching with two cabs kinda screwed up. but i think that two 16 ohm cabs have 8 ohms impednace when used together and two 8 ohm cabs have 4.
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#24
When you use two cabs of the same ohmage, the impedance of the cab setup halves.

So two 8 ohms=4 ohms total.
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#25
Well with my 50w head I'd have the one cab set to mono, with two cabs I'd set it to stereo, there aren't any other options.

#26
I had to post again because I'm still confused about the impedance/ohm. The 50w head has 2 output jacks (obviously for two cabs). What ohm setting should I use for one cab? And two cabs?

Everyone has suggested greenbacks, though I went to musiciansfriend.com and greenbacks can come in either 16 or 8 ohms, if they came in the avatar cabinets, how would I know which ohm setting they are, and if that was what I needed?