#1
Well this is pretty much the same as the JVM thread but to do with the vox AC (50) CPH. A while back i made a thread askign about the AC series and was told it probably wouldnt suit me. Is this amp any different. I says it can do high gain, is that true? Any information on this amp would be nice. O yer and any one got any idea of cost?

thanks
#2
Never heard of the AC50 CPH. AC50's were made a while back though.....are there new ones?

And Vox's aren't made for high gain.
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#8
i thought el84's had more gain than 34's?

EDIT: this is not related to the gain of the amp as a whole, just to the gain characteristics of the power tube.
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#10
^ yeah, but that could be the preamp, or there could be attenuating components bleeding some of the signal to ground. From what I hear, el84's (totally separate from whatever circuit they're in) have a lot of gain for a power tube.

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#12
^

I'm waiting until I try one, lol. There are a lot of new products out this year...
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#15
Well do u guys have any rough idea of price for the 50 watt. It says its voxes highest gain amp to date. Personally i dont mind buying an overdrive pedal but being high gain isnt everything. I also play blues and rock and classic rock etc.

Looks decent to me

thanks
#16
Quote by Dave_Mc
i thought el84's had more gain than 34's?

EDIT: this is not related to the gain of the amp as a whole, just to the gain characteristics of the power tube.

Tubes don't have "gain" per se, but 34s have the potential to sound much better in high gain applications than the 84s, which tend to have ratty breakup and low headroom more suited to chimey clean/low-medium gain tones. That is not to say an EL84 amp can never be able to do metal, that is much more in the amp's design than the tubes it uses.
#17
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Tubes don't have "gain" per se, but 34s have the potential to sound much better in high gain applications than the 84s, which tend to have ratty breakup and low headroom more suited to chimey clean/low-medium gain tones. That is not to say an EL84 amp can never be able to do metal, that is much more in the amp's design than the tubes it uses.


Bullshit, tubes have an amplification factor.
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#18
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Bullshit, tubes have an amplification factor.

But between different tube types, not different tubes of the same type, that has no relavence to what an amp can do gain wise. That's all in the preamp.
#19
^ yeah, that's what I was saying all along. EL34's tend to work better with high gain than el84 (and 6L6 and stuff like that possibly more again), but that's (as far as I'm aware) more to do with how they interact with high pre-amp gain.

(sorry I was a bit harsh, I was in a rush and didn't have time to clarify what I meant)

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#20
Now we have that sorted I'll go back to what i said


Well do u guys have any rough idea of price for the 50 watt. It says its voxes highest gain amp to date. Personally i dont mind buying an overdrive pedal but being high gain isnt everything. I also play blues and rock and classic rock etc.
#21
Well, have you tried an AC30? They're DAMN loud amps, really. I reckon the 50 will be a bit overkill unless you're a serious gigger (and if you are, go for it)
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#23
....What?

The Vox AC30....ever heard of it?
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#24
^ i think he maybe meant you couldn't buy it in a lower wattage than 50.
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#26
^ nope, I'm not sure if they're even out yet.
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#29
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Well do u guys have any rough idea of price for the 50 watt. It says its voxes highest gain amp to date. Personally i dont mind buying an overdrive pedal but being high gain isnt everything. I also play blues and rock and classic rock etc.



It's right there on the page I posted earlier.
#30
Hahaha. Good call. I didn't read everything.
AC100CPH 100-Watt Head (4 x 12AX7/ECC83, 4 x EL34B) - $1,650.00; available now
AC50CPH 50-Watt Head (4 x 12AX7/ECC83, 2 x EL34B) - $1,450.00; available now
AC50CP2 50-Watt, 1 x 12" Combo - $1,750.00; available April 2007

That it is.
I'd want the combo...mmmhm. Vox combos just looks awesome.
#32
i really don't see a vox doing high gain without some major od pedals.
But i dont' see why thier making more gainier things. I figured they were just adding more power for more headroom so that the amp doesn't get gainy with the volume up.