#1
Which one is better? what whattage? Which one should I get
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i also see you have the 1960 cab. what model/letter? (1960B, 1960BV, 1960A)
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#4
the DSL sounds better, but i would wait a few months, after the JVMs are out the prices on the JCM2000s are going to drop quite a bit.
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the DSL sounds better, but i would wait a few months, after the JVMs are out the prices on the JCM2000s are going to drop quite a bit.


to how much, do you think?


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Which one is better? what wattage? Which one should I get


DSLs sound better. 50W is more than enough for most applications, and will get you closer to that "sweet spot" tone at lower volumes.
As far as cabs go, the ones with Vintage 30 speakers are better than the standard models (that's the ones with the V designation in the name eg 1960AV)
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this is just a guess but im thinking the used heads will probably start selling for around or less than the JCM 900s (which average at about $500) the JCM2000 is the least popular tube amp marshall makes and there are a whole crapload of them out there, so they will be cheap.
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omg lower than maybe $500??? if this is true, im all over that shit!
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thats just speculation, but yeah if the JVMs take off like everyone is expecting them too, then JCM2000s are going become dirt cheap (relatively speaking)
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Oh i see... im still prbably going to buy when though....
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So like what kind of distortion does the JCM 2000's have? Like bone crushing Pantera distortion? ...And Justice For All Distortion? Rust In Peace distortion, what?
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kill em all/ride the lightning sorta distortion. though it depends on the eq and the volume. you won't get a pantera sound perfect outta a tube marshall.
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#15
More like old school thrash than Dimebag (you're going to need a Randall for that really!) but whack an OD in front and you can get some extreme sounds out of them!

Whether you like their music or not, Trivium use DSLs with tubescreamers (or Maxon OD808s or whatever) and their guitar sound is pretty awesome.
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thanks joel

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Maybe even some SLayer? (Reign In Blood, South Of Heaven)
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slayer used marshalls so i imagine you'd be able to their sound
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i's say dsl, but listen to thorazine. once those new ones are out you can either get the new JVM or vintage modern (which by all accounts is better than the dsl/tsl, though I haven't been able to try it personally), or alternatively you should be able to score a dsl/tsl at a knock-down price.
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So like what kind of distortion does the JCM 2000's have? Like bone crushing Pantera distortion? ...And Justice For All Distortion? Rust In Peace distortion, what?


Pantera, no... maybe if you buy a pedal.

Justice for all, no. That's Mesa Boogie.

Rust in Peace... Yep.

You can't go wrong with any JCM amp.

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^ all jcm's aren't equal, though. I really don't like the tsl, and the dsl's are kind of decent, but not amazing. IMO.

I guess the 2000's distortion is kind of between rust in piece and more modern stuff, but not ultra-modern.
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keeping in mind this is dave...owner of engl :P
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^ yeah. But there are plenty of cheap-ish amps that I actually do like, to be fair. I just don't like the way marshall are hedging their bets on the jcm2000's, they're trying to please the vintage guys and the modern guys, and end up not really pleasing anyone, IMO.
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