#1
I was listening to Alice Cooper on the radio and he was sayin that Steven Stills almost became the bassist for the Jimi Hendrix Experience, that would have been sick lol anyone else heard about this ever?
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Well Hendrix features in a song on Stephen Stills' first solo album. They were pretty good friends.
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is he better than chas chandler though?
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was this pre or post jimi hendrix experience?
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According to the original poster, it was for the original line up of the Experience. My opinion is that anyone would have been better than Noel Redding, who wasn't even a bass player in the first place.
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is he better than chas chandler though?


chas was the bassist for the Animals. He was Hendrix' manager: you're thinking of Noel Redding.

And Noel Redding... Jimi could have certainly found better technical players.
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He didn't want a technical player though, he wanted someone that'd enable him and Mitch to go f*cking crazy over a steady beat.
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He didn't want a technical player though, he wanted someone that'd enable him and Mitch to go f*cking crazy over a steady beat.


It's possible, I merely said he could have found one if he wanted to
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He didn't want a technical player though, he wanted someone that'd enable him and Mitch to go f*cking crazy over a steady beat.


...Doesn't the drummer keep the beat?

It doesn't matter, Noel Redding was a terrible bassist. He could have chose someone at least better.

I mean, you could argue that Jimi was scared of the spotlight being stolen from him, but look at Mitch Mitchell, who was just as good at drums at Jimi at guitar.

Also take Cream into account... every member of that band was amazing, and everyone in it is well known.
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...Doesn't the drummer keep the beat?

It doesn't matter, Noel Redding was a terrible bassist. He could have chose someone at least better.

I mean, you could argue that Jimi was scared of the spotlight being stolen from him, but look at Mitch Mitchell, who was just as good at drums at Jimi at guitar.

Also take Cream into account... every member of that band was amazing, and everyone in it is well known.


You're right; he should've hired Jack Bruce!
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...Doesn't the drummer keep the beat?


Not in the Experience. Listen to 'Manic Depression', which I think is the ultimate studio play-off between Jimi and Mitch. The bass is the only thing keeping the band tethered to, y'know, the world.
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I see what you're saying, but Mitch was still keeping the beat of the song. It was just in a more Jazz-influenced style.

Simply because the drumming is extremely complicated and seems to be continuous rolls and fills doesn't mean it's off-beat.

Jazz drummers keep their beat with the cymbals, and no so much the snare and bass, as many Rock drummers do.
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Yeah, I read a couple of days ago that Jimi wanted Stephen to be in his band at one point.
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I see what you're saying, but Mitch was still keeping the beat of the song. It was just in a more Jazz-influenced style.

Simply because the drumming is extremely complicated and seems to be continuous rolls and fills doesn't mean it's off-beat.

Jazz drummers keep their beat with the cymbals, and no so much the snare and bass, as many Rock drummers do.


Yeah but if you've already got a guitar player soloing/improvising wildly, and a drummer syncopating all over the place, then if a bassist is playing something... well, tuneful, both the band and the audience are fairly likely to just get lost in the noise. It's possible, but it's hard to do.

Note: I do listen to jazz and prog a bit, where the bands do have segments with no-one really keeping the beat in the sense of going 1+2+3+4 etc., so I know it can work, but it wouldn't have worked in the Experience, and in any case wasn't the sound Hendrix wanted.
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It's possible, but it's hard to do.


Exactly. So if the Experience had a better bassist, it wouldn't have been much of a problem.

Cream, again, is a perfect example.
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Cream, again, is a perfect example.


Take out the word example, and you have the most apt phrase ever.
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I have a few recordings of Jimi and Stephen Stills jamming together, from 1968.
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Exactly. So if the Experience had a better bassist, it wouldn't have been much of a problem.

Cream, again, is a perfect example.


Look, clearly we are not going to agree here, so let's stop arguing. I think if Hendrix had wanted a better bassist, he could have found one. He never had a bassist who was especially technically impressive, and so he clearly wanted a simple bassline to solo over.
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I think that Hendrix chose Redding mostly because he liked his look
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Look, clearly we are not going to agree here, so let's stop arguing. I think if Hendrix had wanted a better bassist, he could have found one. He never had a bassist who was especially technically impressive, and so he clearly wanted a simple bassline to solo over.


I'll go ahead and say that we're both right.

You are right in the sense that if he wanted a better bassist, he could have found one, and I'm right in the sense that he did (Billy Cox)... eventually.
#22
was this before or after Crosby, Stills and Nash got together?

if Stills didnt join up with David Crosby and Graham Nash instead choosing to be a bassist with Jimi Hendrix i reckon it would have been a terrible terrible shame
#23
It was probably before, considering Crosby, Stills, and Nash had only released their first album in 1969, which was shortly after The Jimi Hendrix Experience broke up.

Though Jimi's career continued for a couple of more years, and most of us know that Jimi's good friend Billy Cox joined him on bass (along with Buddy Miles on drums after Mitch Mitchell left), I believe the reason that Stills had been asked to join before was because at this point in time Jimi had noticed that African-Americans were not very big on the Rock music scene, and by presenting a super-group of all blacks, he hoped to encourage more of them to listen to that type of music.
#24
^^That's true. Plus, he was under pressure from Black Separatists (there were a fair few about at the time - and who can blame 'em?) to start playing funkier music that black kids would be more likely to like. I guess he kinda compromised by getting a band full of black guys (although he got Mitch back on drums later, I believe) and getting a tiny bit more funky. Just a little.

Oh, and, Heartbreaker? Nice compromise
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We should indeed. Long live TheHeartbreaker/Strat_Monkey Experience!
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I think that Hendrix chose Redding mostly because he liked his look



No I agree more with the other guys saying he needed a tight rythym section so him a Mitch could show off. Regardless, its in the past and seriously he's prob a more famous bassist than any of us. Why must we question his skills? You don't have to be great to rock.
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#31
alright.. heres the thing.. the original lineup of the experience was put together more or less by the dude from the animals who recorded all of hendrix's early stuff. He got the musicians together and Jimi went in and would play with them and pick which ones he liked. Check out guitar world from a couple months back
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#33
I read that Noel was a guitarist who went along to try out for the New Animals but the spot had been filled so Chas asked him if he'd like to have a go on bass for a new band involving a black dude from the States. Hendrix and Stills were friends, I'm not sure that there was a suggestion that he should be in the Experience though.
#35
Noel left because of exessive crowds at a concert didnt he?