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From Dave Weiner's site (Vai's 7 string rhythm player):

The Ibanez show was awesome. There was an opening act who's name I never caught, then Paul Gilbert and his band played. Awesome stuff. Then the Vai band played for a bit. Herman Li came out to guest on The Reaper, then Joe came out to play on Giant Balls. Then the debauchery started. We did Guitar want to kill your mama and Voodoo Chile with Herman and Joe and also, Andy Timmons, Paul Gilbert and Matt from 3 Doors Down. Very cool jamming/soloing. I'm sure some pics and vids will show up eventually.

All in all, a great time.


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We NEED to find a vid of this people! Just to see Herman get raped :p

Seriously though, he must have been NERVOUS! Up there with his heroes.

Dave talking about it
#2
in the second picture Herman looks like he cant keep up. no suprise though. wanker.
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#5
Aside from the shit, shit playing, Herman seems like a nice guy in general, if slightly thick...


So this "shouldn't breath the same air" shit is unneccesary guys..
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Aside from the shit, shit playing, Herman seems like a nice guy in general, if slightly thick...


So this "shouldn't breath the same air" shit is unneccesary guys..

Agreed.
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#8
Wait... Herman Li, and the guy from 3 doors down? : /
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#10
herman doesn't play shit, I think its fair to say that he is a GREAT player. You may not care for his music, but without starting a good v bad subjective flame war, you have to say that he is a good guitar player. Thats undebatable. If you're gonna flame someone it should be the 3 doors down guy, wtf is that.
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herman doesn't play shit, I think its fair to say that he is a GREAT player. You may not care for his music, but without starting a good v bad subjective flame war, you have to say that he is a good guitar player. Thats undebatable. If you're gonna flame someone it should be the 3 doors down guy, wtf is that.


No, dude, he's really not. He's not good AT ALL.
Not his style, not what he writes, not the fact that he's incredibly sloppy even, though that's part of it, he's just not good in every essence of the word.
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herman doesn't play shit, I think its fair to say that he is a GREAT player. You may not care for his music, but without starting a good v bad subjective flame war, you have to say that he is a good guitar player. Thats undebatable. If you're gonna flame someone it should be the 3 doors down guy, wtf is that.


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herman doesn't play shit, I think its fair to say that he is a GREAT player. You may not care for his music, but without starting a good v bad subjective flame war, you have to say that he is a good guitar player. Thats undebatable. If you're gonna flame someone it should be the 3 doors down guy, wtf is that.


You have no idea how much hypocrisy was detected in that post. No idea...
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#17
I don't understand most of the Herman Li flaming either. He gets to play music he loves, and other people like it, so he gets to make a living off of it. So does Steve Vai. So did Kurt Cobain. So does Paul Gilbert.

We're all guitarists. We're all playing what we love to. Does there have to be so much anger?
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omg herman and vai... jeez he mustve gotten pwntasaured
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I don't understand most of the Herman Li flaming either. He gets to play music he loves, and other people like it, so he gets to make a living off of it. So does Steve Vai. So did Kurt Cobain. So does Paul Gilbert.

We're all guitarists. We're all playing what we love to. Does there have to be so much anger?



Well everyone else you named off besides Herman is respected by people that know what music and talent really are.
#21
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Well everyone else you named off besides Herman is respected by people that know what music and talent really are.


I'm not saying you have to respect the guy, because I don't rele respect him too much myself, but just take it easy.
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#23
I like Dragonforce, they've brought some sort of Shred/Prog to the mainstream metal scene - who cares he's not as skilled or even as creative as a Steve Vai. He still shits on a lot of other crap on the radio we have to sit through, 3 Doors Down for example. I don't know what was doing with that guy, ugh.
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#24
Just shut the **** up about Dragonforce and Herman Li. Everything that can be said about them has already been said. There's no need for another debate about Herman's sloppiness.

On topic, we really need a video of that jam. That looks incredibly cool. And why the hell isn't Vai playing his 20th anniversary JEM?
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I like Dragonforce, they've brought some sort of Shred/Prog to the mainstream metal scene - who cares he's not as skilled or even as creative as a Steve Vai. He still shits on a lot of other crap on the radio we have to sit through, 3 Doors Down for example. I don't know what was doing with that guy, ugh.


I really like 3 Doors Down a LOT better than Dragonforce myself.
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yeah better acomplished in one style, then fake it in another style.

people here compare apples to donkey's or somewhat.

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I liked Dragonforces 1st album, the songs seemed kind of fresh and more melodically accomplished than on their othe 2 albums. I think their big problem is that 1)The guitars are too wanky and 2)The only reason they're popular is because most people think they're innovative and have invented a new style of music, whereas they have pretty much just copied Helloween (maybe slightly faster but in essence the same)....
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#28
pfff you like herman cares what all the guys on the internet, sitting behind their computer think about him. I'm pretty sure Vai thinks positive about him... I've never heard anyone on UG have a personal style (all the weird effects in his solo's) like herman has!
#29
Stop with the hating people! What is with elitests and raping people for having a slighly different opinion? So what if the guy from 3 Doors Down and Herman Li aren't as creative or whatever as the Gods up on that stage? Not many people are in that style of playing. Has anyone got any videos of the show to get back on subject?
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On topic, we really need a video of that jam. That looks incredibly cool. And why the hell isn't Vai playing his 20th anniversary JEM?



That guitar with those LED's?? He's using it in picture six, isn't he??
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Yeah, he is. All of the pics weren't loaded at the time when I wrote my post and didn't bother to edit it afterwards.
#32
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I really like 3 Doors Down a LOT better than Dragonforce myself.


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#33
i still love the fake f-holes.

wish i had been there.
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#34
His playing isn't that shit..

Alot of people overrate the **** out of him, though. He isn't a bad player at all. To be honest, He's better than quite a few people I've seen in my limited time on earth.

There are alot of overrated guitarists out there. I'm pretty sure there are a group of people who think Vai, Satch, Gilbert (not so much him..) etc are all overrated cockfairy wankers, too.

So why all the harshness? You have to take everything people say with a grain of salt. He might not be the best. He might be a bit tipsy when he plays, etc (that's obviously very irresponsible) but there is no need to call him shit. He IS one of the best young guitarists/shredders out there and he IS making it. Not only is he making it, he's bringing recognition to a style of playing that you guys enjoy.

Just because you're all jealous, callous pricks doesn't mean he deserves to have himself berated. Especially by a bunch of you guys on a forum. WTF? I'd bet that most of you either A: Wouldn't say it to his face or B: Are so cocky that you think you have a right to.

****.

No wonder why I can't stand the shred forum.

you take something to be celebrated, something with some excitement and you shit all over it because you can't comprehend why someone who was voted BEST YOUNG GUITARIST is on stage with a bunch of OTHER GUITARISTS who play the same style and brand of guitar he does... HMM..
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i still love the fake f-holes.

wish i had been there.



The fake F-holes used to confuse the crap out of me before I saw the PGM in a store a couple years ago. I didn't know how the hell you would have a semi-hollow that narrow!

But (shameless plug) the PGM is a great guitar. Not my style, because the pickups are kind of mellow and there's no locking trem, but it is a damn nice guitar. I just picked it up, and immediately that Gilbert-esque sound was right at my fingertips.
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His playing isn't that shit..

Alot of people overrate the **** out of him, though. He isn't a bad player at all. To be honest, He's better than quite a few people I've seen in my limited time on earth.

There are alot of overrated guitarists out there. I'm pretty sure there are a group of people who think Vai, Satch, Gilbert (not so much him..) etc are all overrated cockfairy wankers, too.

So why all the harshness? You have to take everything people say with a grain of salt. He might not be the best. He might be a bit tipsy when he plays, etc (that's obviously very irresponsible) but there is no need to call him shit. He IS one of the best young guitarists/shredders out there and he IS making it. Not only is he making it, he's bringing recognition to a style of playing that you guys enjoy.

Just because you're all jealous, callous pricks doesn't mean he deserves to have himself berated. Especially by a bunch of you guys on a forum. WTF? I'd bet that most of you either A: Wouldn't say it to his face or B: Are so cocky that you think you have a right to.

****.

No wonder why I can't stand the shred forum.

you take something to be celebrated, something with some excitement and you shit all over it because you can't comprehend why someone who was voted BEST YOUNG GUITARIST is on stage with a bunch of OTHER GUITARISTS who play the same style and brand of guitar he does... HMM..


You've no idea of how wrong you are about him and us and this forum...I'll leave it at that.
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#37
y'all need to stop flamin Herman, i'm not a big fan of his but damn how about talkin bout what in the hell if that 3DD guy doin up there? That's got me curious, we know the other guys have skills(not talent i'm so sick of hearing that, you dont wake up and shred you work your ass off) but i'm curious for a vid if that guy is up there, just to see how it went
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The fake F-holes used to confuse the crap out of me before I saw the PGM in a store a couple years ago. I didn't know how the hell you would have a semi-hollow that narrow!

But (shameless plug) the PGM is a great guitar. Not my style, because the pickups are kind of mellow and there's no locking trem, but it is a damn nice guitar. I just picked it up, and immediately that Gilbert-esque sound was right at my fingertips.

i thought they were real too, until i looked at it on their website and saw the pup selector switch and the volume knob actually on it.

i could get over not having the locking trem.
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I don't understand most of the Herman Li flaming either. He gets to play music he loves, and other people like it, so he gets to make a living off of it. So does Steve Vai. So did Kurt Cobain. So does Paul Gilbert.

We're all guitarists. We're all playing what we love to. Does there have to be so much anger?

Because Dragonforce has become the cool band to hate. I've stated many, many times how Herman is an excellent guitarist, but inconsistant. I'm not going into detail mainly because I'm sick and tired of typing it. But I'll leave you with this.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CkuGfzNziBw

Seriously, stop with the "Herman li messed up that sweep on Guitar world, I must make fun of him because my self esteem is lower than the temperature in deep space lol.".
I'm back, you douchebags.
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y'all need to stop flamin Herman, i'm not a big fan of his but damn how about talkin bout what in the hell if that 3DD guy doin up there? That's got me curious, we know the other guys have skills(not talent i'm so sick of hearing that, you dont wake up and shred you work your ass off) but i'm curious for a vid if that guy is up there, just to see how it went


Exactly.
Anyways, I would cut someone just to see this show.

All my favorite guitarist on the same stage. Own.
I'm back, you douchebags.
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