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#1
im looking for soem info on these
they are for getting that saturated tube tone at low volumes ...
where could i by one?
what brands make them
and how much are they roughly
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#2
thd, marshall, koch, weber, dr z, a few others make them too.

they're around £200 over here, probably a similar amount in $US.
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#3
Through my hate of Ted Weber, I still manage to recommend a Weber mass to just about anyone. Best price, good device.

What can I say?
-Mike
#4
Weber - anywhere from 65 to 225. All are quite good, the speaker motor ones are some of the best attenuators made. Most are usable for multiple impedances.
http://www.tedweber.com/atten.htm

THD: Also very good, but more expensive, only usable for one impedance, and the volume adjustment has a limited amount of options, as opposed to the Weber models which are continuously adjustable.
299 and up:http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/THD-Hot-Plate-Attenuator?sku=481283


Dr. Z: Similar to the THD, but has a continuously adjustable volume option. It is supposed to work with any impedance, but the reality is if you have a bassman head or such that runs at 2 ohms it may be dangerous. A good option for 8 and 16 ohm heads though.
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http://musictoyz.com/guitar/amps/drzair.php
#5
thank for the info
so weber seems as if its the best in vesititlity & price?

any info on what model is good for a 50 watt amp ...
i read i should get something in 100w range?
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#7
any dircetion for a model to look into?
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#8
i have seen people just connect a variable resistor between the out put section and speaker on there amp, is that safe? does it work?
#9
attewnuator acts as a master volume ... so if an amp have a Master Volume ... would it be the same?
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#10
^ no, it doesn't. a master volume produces overdrive in the preamp tubes, an attenuator still allows power tube overdrive.

it's far from the whole story, though, the speakers pushing air etc. make for great tone too. but it's a start.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#11
Oh yeah it makes a huge difference - the tones are much different cranked still and there's much to gain, as well as the fact that you can play REALLY damn quiet with a huge tube halfstack.
-Mike
#12
im thinking about getting the TT50, so a attenuator is needed hehe
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#13
Why wouldn't you need one?
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#14
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Why wouldn't you need one?

If you had something along the lines of a Z.Vex Nano.
#15
Which I might add, costs a buttload.

I'd rather the Bumbox Lead 1. That thing is a hot 400 dollars.
-Mike
#16
Weber all the way!

I have the mini mass, and it's great. Doesn't taint my tone, and sounds fantastic.
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#17
Quote by That_Pink_Queen
Why wouldn't you need one?

i do need one (when i buy the amp ... or now actually) thats why im asking
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#18
-what should i be looking for in these attenuators?
just some type of voiume knob to control everything?
& what is better a resistive ann. or a speaker ann. ?
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#19
Just go to weber's website....buy a 100watt mass or mass lite.

Thats all you need to know.
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#20
Quote by bonchie1
Just go to weber's website....buy a 100watt mass or mass lite.

Thats all you need to know.

^ide rathr no some more info that buy it blindly
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#21
Quote by TinTin8
^ide rathr no some more info that buy it blindly


Theres nothing else to know. They work...they work good. They use a speaker motor to avoid serious tone loss. The Mass has a tone stack for the DI output, the lite doesn't and is cheaper for it.
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#22
whats a DI output?
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#23
Quote by TinTin8
whats a DI output?


Direct out. You can send a signal straight out the attenuator without ever going to the speakers. This could be to play live into a PA or for recording purposes.

Its not something you really need. Which is why I saved 100 bucks and just got the 100 watt mass lite.
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#24
^alright thanks ...
now for dealer questions... do alot of dealers have these?
or is this just an online buy?
possibly a special store?

& i hear you need a speaker cabel for it? am i correct?
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Last edited by TinTin8 at Jan 29, 2007,
#25
any help?
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#26
Some stores might have other brands in stock, but as far as I know, you can only get the Webers direct. You don't need a separate cab, but you might need to do a small mod on a combo.
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#27
Quote by Wayward_Son
Some stores might have other brands in stock, but as far as I know, you can only get the Webers direct. You don't need a separate cab, but you might need to do a small mod on a combo.

diagrams on webers site show its a direct placement :\
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#28
I have heard that (opinions on attenuators notwithstanding) the Marshall Powerbrake is a poor offering. It also seems to be very expensive. Anyone have actual experience with this one? (Sorry to hijack the thread, but I think this info could be useful)
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#29
^no problem, more info the better
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#30
I've played the Marshall Powerbrake and it is a poor attenuator. In comparison to others, it doesn't hold its ground. I'm also not that impressed with THD's offerings, in comparison to the Webers and the Dr. Z and the Ultimate Attenuator, they don't seem to be a great value either.
-Mike
#31
so i guess weber is the best for the price & quality, bar none.
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#32
I'm thinking of getting one also. (after I get my jcm 800, of course :p I guess I'll read up this thread.
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#34
Okay back to my question (sorry threadstarter).


What attenuator would best suite the jcm 800? As in, what specific weber attenuator.

Thanks.
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#36
mhm i thought you just need one that was double the rated power. (50 wat amp, 100 wat annt.)
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#37
To save argument, from http://www.tedweber.com/

"A note about the power level:

You should select an attenuator that can handle at least as much power as your amp puts out.

Amplifiers are generally designed to operate clean, and most manufacturers specify the output power as clean power. When you run the amp full blast, the output devices actually become more efficient because distortion is not considered. Under those conditions, the amp may be capable of putting out as much as 50% more power than its rated clean power. Be aware of that when choosing an attenuator, because the idea of using an attenuator is to run the amp full blast into power tube distortion and then controlling the level going to the speaker. If you are going to dime a 50 watt amp, you should choose a 100 watt attenuator."
#38
I've used my 50 watt Bassman with my 50 watt Weber, and while it does work, it gets really warm and starts to smell crispy.

I'd go with double the wattage.
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#39
Quote by treagar
To save argument, from http://www.tedweber.com/

"A note about the power level:

You should select an attenuator that can handle at least as much power as your amp puts out.

Amplifiers are generally designed to operate clean, and most manufacturers specify the output power as clean power. When you run the amp full blast, the output devices actually become more efficient because distortion is not considered. Under those conditions, the amp may be capable of putting out as much as 50% more power than its rated clean power. Be aware of that when choosing an attenuator, because the idea of using an attenuator is to run the amp full blast into power tube distortion and then controlling the level going to the speaker. If you are going to dime a 50 watt amp, you should choose a 100 watt attenuator."

yeah thats where i read it
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