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#1
Which way is the correct way?

#1: Trench warfare was a system of battle used mainly during World War One, where each side camped in its own trench, and the battlefield, or “No Man’s Land”, was the space in between the two trenches.

#2: Trench warfare was a system of battle used mainly during World War One, where each side camped in its own trench, and the battlefield, or “No Man’s Land,” was the space in between the two trenches.

Basically, I'm asking if the comma goes before or after the quotes.
#3
Before.

EDIT: In these situations, you should always put the punctuation inside the speech mark.
Last edited by Dæmönika at Jan 28, 2007,
#5
They are both wrong
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#9
number 1.

if the comma is within the quotes, you are not sperating the quote, but making it seem as though you were going to say something else within the quotes.


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#11
dude, we're guitarists, not grammar geniuses. but id say dont put quotes around it because its a generally accepted name for it, and its not really the battlefield, but i wont bash it too much. so ya, either number 2, or dont put quotes.

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#13
although they are both wrong, the comma goes within the quotes. trust me, i did this in english class and summer school. i know what im doing.
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#14
They're both wrong. The comma goes after the quotes.

“No Man’s Land,”

Should be

“No Man’s Land”,
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#15
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although they are both wrong, the comma goes within the quotes. trust me, i did this in english class and summer school. i know what im doing.


So why exactly are they both wrong?

EDIT: ^ Wrong.
#16
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Which way is the correct way?

#1: Trench warfare was a system of battle used mainly during World War One. Where each side camped in its own trench, the battlefield or “No Man’s Land”, which was the space in between the two trenches.


both are wrong, both are too long, you need a period in there somewhere bro. and 'and' joins two sentences, so you don't need a comma + 'and'. I think this is better. Comma goes after the quotes, unless the comma is part of your quote.
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#17
You should separate it with hyphens.
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#20
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both are wrong, both are too long, you need a period in there somewhere bro. and 'and' joins two sentences, so you don't need a comma + 'and'. I think this is better. Comma goes after the quotes, unless the comma is part of your quote.

^ I disagree. The second sentence is awkward. It's pretty much fine as written; however, to answer your question, when you're putting punctuation at the end of a quotation, it always goes inside the quotation, no matter if it's a device used in the sentence as a whole or as part of the quote.
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#21
#2 because the quotation marks like to hug the comma because they do not discriminate.
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#23
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both are wrong, both are too long, you need a period in there somewhere bro. and 'and' joins two sentences, so you don't need a comma + 'and'. I think this is better. Comma goes after the quotes, unless the comma is part of your quote.

AND...

#1: Trench warfare was a system of battle used mainly during World War One. Where each side camped in its own trench, the battlefield or “No Man’s Land”, which was the space in between the two trenches.


That question mark is wrong. The comma sufficed, or a semi-colon minus the word "where." "Which" is all right, but just getting rid of "was" sounds better.

Leaving...

Trench warfare was a system of battle used mainly during World War One; each side camped in its own trench, and the battlefield, or “No Man’s Land,” the space in between the two trenches.
#24
^ yeah, that one works better. You shouldn't confuse the poor boy with semicolons of all things, though.
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^ yeah, that one works better. You shouldn't confuse the poor boy with semicolons of all things, though.



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#26
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It's different ever 10 minutes.
#27
The comma being within or outside the quotes differs between American English and English English. Americans tend to put the comma within, the English outside.
#28
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The comma being within or outside the quotes differs between American English and English English. Americans tend to put the comma within, the English outside.


Do we? I've been taught since I was a wee bairn, that the comma goes inside. (Well, maybe not since I was a wee bairn, counting up to ten was the thing back then). You sure you're not thinking about full stops and such in relation to brackets?
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#31
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The comma being within or outside the quotes differs between American English and English English. Americans tend to put the comma within, the English outside.


Oh, good. The comma on the inside of the quote seems incredibly useless to me. Quote marks quote a significant phrase or word from another context and thus should not include punctuation for the current written context.
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#32
Number 2

Punctuation always goes within the quotation marks.

Edit: That is, in American English. Just as a heads up, that sentence needs improvement.
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#33
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How do you think I feel? I'm on a fucking boat in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by blue; I have a right to pick on people.

Actually, shore is only about 20 feet off your bow. Nice job cropping the pic, though, so you could try to make people feel sorry for you.
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#34
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Actually, shore is only about 10 feet off your bow. Nice job cropping the pic, though, so you could try to make people feel sorry for you.


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#35
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Which way is the correct way?

#2: Trench warfare was a system of battle used mainly during World War One, where each side camped in its own trench, and the battlefield, or, “No Man’s Land,” was the space in between the two trenches.

Basically, I'm asking if the comma goes before or after the quotes.


Here's my advice:
World War One is either written World War I or WWI. You should probably go with World War I.

Trench warfare is a system of battle that was common during World War I.

Then go into describing trench warfare,

What is the subject you are writing about?

Don't say "Trench Warfare."
Last edited by The_Cory at Jan 29, 2007,
#36
wtf are you kidding me? the comma isn't part of the quote it should be out of it.
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#37
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Which way is the correct way?

#1: Trench warfare was a system of battle used mainly during World War One, where each side camped in its own trench, and the battlefield, or “No Man’s Land”, was the space in between the two trenches.

#2: Trench warfare was a system of battle used mainly during World War One, where each side camped in its own trench, and the battlefield, or “No Man’s Land,” was the space in between the two trenches.

Basically, I'm asking if the comma goes before or after the quotes.


Neither.

Trench warfare was a system of battle used mainly during World War One. Each side camped in it's own trench and the battlefield, or 'No Man's Land', was the space between the two trenches.
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#38
The correct answer is number 2 but to be honest the quotes aren't even needed.
#39
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had to be something like that, what anime is it from anyway? i don't recognise it
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#40
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Neither.

Trench warfare was a system of battle used mainly during World War One. Each side camped in it's own trench and the battlefield, or 'No Man's Land', was the space between the two trenches.

I wish you English would stop giving him bad English advice

In the US, no matter the context, the punctuation always goes inside the quotation marks. I know what you're telling him is apparently correct in England, but it's one of those modern changes in grammar rules in the US.

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Last edited by Dirk Gently at Jan 29, 2007,
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