#1
in the song by Pantera cemetery gates how does Dime get that wistling kinda sound with the heavy riff you know with "the way we were!" lyrics to them. anywhoo how does dime get the whistling to them, does he use the whammy bar or does he use pinch harms on em
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#4
Essentially he depresses the whammy, strikes a natural harmonic (around the 4th fret on the G string for example) and brings the whammy back up.
The way he does it is a bit more tricky and showy than that, but it should get you making a similair sort of scream.
#5
I posted this in another thread asking how to get dime's signature Squeals, so I'll repost that reply here to help you out a little.

This comes straight out of Dimes "Riffer Madness" book:

"Whats shakin' tough guy? As promised, I'm gonna light you up on how to do harmonic squeals. To get Harmonic Screams(same shit, different term) happening, you need a whammy bar. So, if your axe doesn't have one you're gonna have to sit this section out--sorry, dude! Also, just so you know, we're gonna be doing seom pretty brutal dives that will definitely knock a non-locking tremolo system way out of tune. So a locking one, like a Floyd Rose-type, is kind of essential.

In case you're not exactly sure what I mean by a harmonic scream, there's a long, slow one in "This Love" that starts at 6:21[CD Time] and runs to the very end of the track. You can also hear me doing a bunch of them in Cemetery Gates', between 6:14 and the end, where I imitate Phil's screams. I love that sort of vocal stuff, but there's no way in hell I can do it in my voice--I don't have that kinda range! So, harmonic screams are my way of singing out, using my guitar instead of my throat--thats why I really dig this technique.

I stumbled onto harmonic squeals when I was dicking around one day. A lot of people think I use a harmonizer or a [DigiTech] Whammy pedal to do them, but I don't; all I use is my bar and some Natural Harmonics. To make the harmonics scream, I first dump my Floyd Rose real quick, hit a harmonic with my left hand while the string is still flapping and then use the bar to pull it up to the pitch I wanna hit.

If this sounds kinda complex to you, don't schiz--it's actually a pretty simple thing to do once you've got the technique down. So, let's learn how to do a real basic harmonic scream in slow motion, by breaking the idea down into four easy steps. Let's use the harmonic that's directly above the 5th fret on the G string 'cos it's a pretty easy one to nail and make it scream up to its original pitch of G. First though, dial up a distorted sound[remember, gain helps harmonics happen] and swtich to your lead[bridge] pickup.

STEP 1: Position your left hand so you're ready to hit the 5th-fret harmonic on the G string with your bird [middle] finger. Then mute the high E and B strings with your left-hand index finger, and the low E, A and D with your thumb by wrapping it around the top of the neck.

STEP 2: Flick the G string with your bird finger and dump the bar down to the pitch you want the scarem to start at. You can take the bar down as little or as far as you want; just don't take it down too far, or the string will die of shock and the harmonic won't happen.

STEP 3: As soon as the bar is dumped, sound the harmonic by lightly tapping the G string directly above 5th fret with your bird finger. While you're doing this, make sure you're still keeping the other strings quiet with your thumb and index finger.

STEP 4: As soon as you've hit the harmonic, release pressure on the bar and let the G string return back up to pitch. As long as you've sounded the harmonic properly, it'll scream up to G."


Thats a small tid bit on the basics of how dime explains he achieves those killer squeals. The rest of the book explains in greater detail how to to make them scream out like a siren, but I figure if you get these basics down you will figure out how to do that on your own.
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#6
haha actually didnt notice it was you again shredlet. It's the same principle as before you just have to work on it to really get it down. I believe when dime uses his whammy bar for this one he puts it toward the back of the guitar so he can just push down to reach a higher pitch instead of keeping in the normal position where you would need to pull the bar up to reach it.

EDIT: You definitely need something with a floyd rose to get it just right, a Flord rose will allow will allow you to bend the bar up as well as down so you can reach those higher pitched squeals much easier.
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#7
yeah i know i just wasnt sure coz i saw him playing live on youtube (where the **** else!???) and his notes where real wistly i didnt really see much though and was just curious oh and thanks for taking the effort to write it out again
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#8
wait though are you talking about the whistling sound during the riff playing during "the way we were"?
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#9
yeah... if you understand it
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#10
ok that part he is using Pinch harmonics and not natural with whammy bar. That is done in each chorus as well and is part of the chorus riff. I was mistaking you for meaning the screaming at the end of the song where he does use his whammy bar. You can check out that riff here on UG in the Cemetary Gates tabs. It's a very fun song to play by the way.
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#11
Cheers Sinister another helpful post! +2 Dime-points to you!
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#12
also if you check back on the thread you made about Dime's signature squeals, I believe someone left a download of a scanned copy of his book, so might want to check back there, might find it helpful, since you seem to enjoy the wonderful guitar skills of the late great dimebag.
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#13
FOR ****S SAKE!!!!


It's pinch harmonics that have been double tracked.

In every dime guitar thread people post about those harmonic squels. **** OFF! It's not relevant! Pinch Harmonics on the 5th string around the 7th fret and others. Look at a tab!
#14
woah take it easy there buddy, i already knew bout the harmonics squeals and the pinch harmonics didnt sound exactly right to me i was just checking to see incase he didnt use his whammy bar or something too
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