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#1
Ello all!

Im wondering which guitar to get as it is nearing the time to get a replacement for my squier strat!

Gibson Faded SG
http://www.guitarcenter.com/shop/product/buy_gibson_faded_sg_special_electric_guitar?full_sku=102935921

Gibson VIntage Mahogany LP
http://www.guitarcenter.com/shop/product/buy_gibson_les_paul_vintage_mahogany_electric_guitar?full_sku=517536%2e008

I cant decide as they both look nice to me ( cant decide between colors too but Im leaning towards the cherry)
#2
i personally like the sg if all electronics and whatnot are equal. but thats just me. what the hell do i know?
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#3
Get the LP. I never really liked SG's. If you're a more heavy player I'd go with the SG though.
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#4
Play them both, its about sound and feel. The sg is going to sound more like your strat. The lp has more depth to the sound. Good luck!
#5
Go to guitar center and talk a SG standard down to like 800.

I walked in about a year ago and saw a big Gibson Box being carried in, asked them what it was, and it was a Gibson SG Standard Heritage Cherry, so I asked if I could play it and after about an hour of playing it I told them I would pay 700 for it and they said 850 and I got it for 850 + tax with a Gibson case and a setup. Wasn't too hard. The ones on the shelf were like 1200 too...
#6
Yeah best advice is too play them if possible but i'd go LP just cause I like those no other reason.
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#8
In my opinion the LP has a ballsier tone to it that I like. The SG is lighter though if you spend alot of time standing up and playing. Play them both then pick the obne that plays better for you.
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#10
I would personally pick my Epiphone Joe Perry Custom over both. I looked at both of those guitars when i was shopping for a new one. I actually bought a Vintage Mahogany, but then i played a Joe Perry and returned my Vintage Mahogany for a Joe Perry that i bought off Ebay for $500. Great buy. BTW the Joe Perry comes with Gibson Burstbucker 2 and 3's.
#12
Go LP. The SG specials are great guitars, but not the faded specials. They feel like cheap pieces of shit. The specials on the other hand have a nicer feel, better fret work and if you toss a decent pickup in the bridge its a killer guitar.
#14
Do what KissingShadows said. It's very easy to get price cuts on guitars at Guitar Center if you have cash on you.
#15
Ahhh.. didnt know they would go down.. How low iwll they go on the LP?

I think im gonna get the LP as it comes with a hard case.

800 stock so Id guess 750?
#16
The faded series of Gibson are terrible. Honestly, the standard series are too. My SG took about 500 dollars in neck repairs to be playable. I like it none the less.
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#19
talk down a Les Paul studio if youre lookin to go with an LP.. you can probly talk it down to the same price you would pay for the Vintage, but be getting a hell of a lot better guitar
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#20
They both can play the hard stuff, so it doesn't really look like you're losing out on performance. I'd pick the SG if you like more of a hard rock looking guitar. Personally, I like the Les Paul.
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#21
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ESP's are nicer than any Gibson in that price range.

agreed^+1
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#22
i havnt played the SG, but i have played the LP in a puke lime green color, i didnt like it, felt cheap compared to other Gibby lp's. i also didnt care much for the sound, and im assuming the SG will have similar qualities.

so i suggest getting something else.
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#23
Whatever you decide to go with, I strongly suggest you play the guitar before you buy it. I say this only because the Guitar Center that I go to didn't have the vintage LP that you're considering.
#24
niether

but if you must have one goe with the lp its basically the same thing as a studio
but also look into getting a sg standard or a regular les paul well worth waiting for
#25
Screamin: Just exactly.. how do you go about talking down the price?

Just say.. ill give you ??? for it?

and should I start lower than I want?

And GC doesnt have any ESP guitars?
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#26
try just making an offer on a Studio, and if they say they dont do that, then youre gonna have to do a little work. thoroughly look over the guitar and point out even the slightest things that seem wrong with it, such as light scratches, etc., and then they will be more likely to give you a deal

also, if youre 18, then you can probably put however much you have to spend as a down payment on a Studio. you can pay the extra couple hundred on credit, usually 0% interest
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#27
Nooo!

It just went up 270 dollars on GC's website.. which means its probably 270 more at the store too

Its my dad paying for it so
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agreed^+1


Of course, it wouldn't matter, because I'm being ignored totally.

Oh well, it's his loss.
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I cant find ESPs.. And I dont know which ESPs are good


ESP EC-400

The EC-400 has a set neck, Grover tuners, a mahogany body, and active EMG 81's. And it's only $600, and kills those Gibsons.

ESP EC-1000

EC-1000

EC-1000

The EC-1000 has a mahogany body, flamed maple top, set mahogany neck, Sperzel locking tuners, 24 frets, active EMG's or Seymour Duncan JB/59 set, a Tonepros bridge and tailpiece, and an Earvana nut. $800.

The EC-1000 is what I'd recommend. It's the same price as the Mahogany LP, and it absolutely murders it. And frankly, murders pretty much every Gibson.
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#31
Well, Im trying to get a gibson LP studio... But I dunno

Im looking at the EC-1000 and they look pretty good
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Well, Im trying to get a gibson LP studio... But I dunno

Im looking at the EC-1000 and they look pretty good


I'm telling you, bud. Once you get past the fact that it's an ESP, and not a Gibson, you'll realize it's the better deal by far.

I mean, the EC is so far ahead of the Studio that it's unreal. That, and it's about $200 less.

If you're dead set on having a Gibson, buy it. But the EC is going to be the better deal by far.

And this is all coming from a former die hard Gibson fanboy.
#34
the EC-1000 is a great guitar; my friend has one and its amazing

if youd prefer a Les Paul and are willing to cash out for it, you might look into the Epiphone elitist series.. they put the studio to SHAME.. i think theyre around $1100, which might be more than youre spending, but its an idea, nonetheless
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#35
I just read some reviews at Harmony Central and wooooooahhh...

ESP EC-1000 blew away the LP STudio ratings..

I think ill get the EC-1000 but the problem is.... I want SEymour Duncans on a guitar that comes with EMGs
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I just read some reviews at Harmony Central and wooooooahhh...

ESP EC-1000 blew away the LP STudio ratings..

I think ill get the EC-1000 but the problem is.... I want SEymour Duncans on a guitar that comes with EMGs


What do you mean? You like one of the EMG equipped models, but you'd rather it came with Duncans?

That's really an easily fixable problem. Those EMG's could fetch a nice amount of money if you decide to pull them out and sell them. I'm estimating about $100 for the both of them. Duncans are about $70 a piece, so you'd end up shelling out roughly $40 out of your pocket after you sold the EMG's. And still, you'd have spent a lot less than you would have on a Studio.
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