#1
Simple Question:

Is a Line 6 Spider III good or bad?
Is it's bad, are there any alternatives which sounds better, but still have some nice effects?


I want an honest opinion by people who spent at least 30 minutes playing around on the amp.
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#2
Spiders arent as bad as everyone makes them out tobe(is ok but a beginner), but they are still kinda bad digital sounding amps. For the price of them there are alternatives that give you a bigger bang for you buck . For alternatives it depends on your budget
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#3
I've actually played it. It was neat with all of the presets and things, but it wasn't the full and warm tone I got out of amps slightly pricier. Which one are you looking at, so we can get a price range?
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#4
I was looking at the Spider III 120W.

EDIT: What interests me is the variety of sounds, from Metal of gool old clean stuff, to '80s rock.
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#5
tell me how much do they cost in the uk?
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#6
I have the spider III 75w, i personally love it. i think it was worth every penny
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#7
I've seen it for £245, up to £299.

An alternative idea is: Wouldn't a great amp + effect pedals, etc., have a greater sound and STILL have some good effects?
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#8
After looking at GAK, they have it for about £280. For around $550, you could easily get a tube combo which is not only a whole bunch louder, but sounds a whole bunch better. Look used on ebay, you can find wonderful deals on incredible amps.

EDIT: ^Yes, yes, and yes.
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#9
and whats your budget

and to answer you question an amp with individual effect pedals vs an amp with effect/ or an amp with multi fx pedal, sounds much better imo
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#10
So what other amp could I get that sounds great (and one that I could use effects pedals with?)
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#11
depends on your budget. Around the spider's price range there are some Laney amps that are worth a look.
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#12
I'm not a huge fan of this amp, but with some tweaking, I'm sure it could be a good alternative.

Peavey Valveking 112
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#14
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I'm not a huge fan of this amp, but with some tweaking, I'm sure it could be a good alternative.

Peavey Valveking 112

that wont get metal tho unless you od pedal it( considerably).
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#15
Flextone 3 by Line 6?
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#16
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that wont get metal tho unless you od pedal it( considerably).

Valveking + Bad Monkey = Metal.
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#17
^eh debatable but its closer to there. i tired a TS-9 and a bad monkey with a Vavleking and it worked "decently". THo a noisegate was needed for the extra noise.
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#18
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Around the spider's price range there are some Laney amps that are worth a look.


^ +1 on the Laney.

Once you get past a certain size, I just don't think you should be looking at modeling amps anymore. A 30W valve amp will give you enough power to gig with, and give you a quality amp to build your rig around.

The Spider III's get better reviews than their last incarnation, but I still suspect that it won't take long for you to tire of it.
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#19
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^ +1 on the Laney.

Once you get past a certain size, I just don't think you should be looking at modeling amps anymore. A 30W valve amp will give you enough power to gig with, and give you a quality amp to build your rig around.

The Spider III's get better reviews than their last incarnation, but I still suspect that it won't take long for you to tire of it.


Not too keen on tube amps, but then, meh.

So, what kind of Laney would you recommend?
EDIT: And would it sound good on at most volumes?
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- Fender '72 Deluxe Telecaster
- Arbiter LP Jr. Doublecut
Amp:
- Laney VC15

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#20
This guy's in your price range: http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/vc30-112/380

Not a fan of tube amps? How long have you been playing? What have you tried? Nervous about tube amp maintainence? You shouldn't be.

If you just don't like the sound, then I'm not the guy to give you advice.
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#21
It's just the maintenance, and "warm-up".

How long do most tubes last for?

EDIT: Would a Laney LV200 be a good idea?
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- Laney VC15

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RIP DIO
Last edited by Simsimius at Feb 4, 2007,
#22
Quote by Simsimius
It's just the maintenance, and "warm-up".

How long do most tubes last for?


This is why I said you shouldn't be nervous.

Just turn your amp on stand-by first, then set up the rest of your stuff. By the time you plug in your guitar, you're good to go. No need to warm it up for more than a minute.

Tubes'll last anywhere from a year, to two, three, or more depending on your usage. If you're cranking your amp everyday for a couple hours, they'll go faster. If you're generally playing at lower volumes and only cranking it occassionally, they'll last a lot longer.

Once you own one, you'll look forward to the time to change the tubes. It's like getting a whole new amp for just a few bucks.
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#23
Quote by Simsimius
EDIT: Would a Laney LV200 be a good idea?


That's not an all-valve amp, it's a hybrid along the lines of the Vox Valvetronix series. It's not what I'd recommend.
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#24
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This is why I said you shouldn't be nervous.

Just turn your amp on stand-by first, then set up the rest of your stuff. By the time you plug in your guitar, you're good to go. No need to warm it up for more than a minute.

Tubes'll last anywhere from a year, to two, three, or more depending on your usage. If you're cranking your amp everyday for a couple hours, they'll go faster. If you're generally playing at lower volumes and only cranking it occassionally, they'll last a lot longer.

Once you own one, you'll look forward to the time to change the tubes. It's like getting a whole new amp for just a few bucks.


Awesome. I'm currently ckecing out the Laney website. I've seen some stuff but feedback by anyone would be useful:

-What's the TT100 like?

So, do these sound good, is the volume awesome (sound nice and quiet, or go loud).

Any more recommendations? (A lot of Laney amps come with a footswitch, but some don't).
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- Arbiter LP Jr. Doublecut
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- Laney VC15

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Last edited by Simsimius at Feb 4, 2007,
#25
I'm in the US, and don't have a lot of access to Laney here. Mostly, I'm going by stuff I've read about them, which is all positive. Both the LC and VC series. Your budget is a little tight, but if you start a new thread in search of a valve amp in your price range in the UK, you'll get a wider range of replies.
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#26
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I'm in the US, and don't have a lot of access to Laney here. Mostly, I'm going by stuff I've read about them, which is all positive. Both the LC and VC series. Your budget is a little tight, but if you start a new thread in search of a valve amp in your price range in the UK, you'll get a wider range of replies.


OK, will do.
I was hoping to find out what's good and what's not. It I had to, I could hold on and wait. I'll do some research and find out what's best.
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- Fender '72 Deluxe Telecaster
- Arbiter LP Jr. Doublecut
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- Laney VC15

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#27
Dave Mc is the man to ask about Laney's - he's rather partial to them. Ashdown Fallen Angel is a good option too.
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#28
What about Orange amps?
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#29
get a boss me-50 for effects and a orange crush 15 r for a amp.Comes to about £130-£250 but will last you until you get something bigger. The tone is killer. Im using then same guitar as you but with a me-50 and a marshall mg 100dfx.and the mg series (lower end models) and crush are very similar.
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#30
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get a boss me-50 for effects and a orange crush 15 r for a amp.Comes to about £130-£250 but will last you until you get something bigger. The tone is killer. Im using then same guitar as you but with a me-50 and a marshall mg 100dfx.and the mg series (lower end models) and crush are very similar.

You're not exactly painting a rosy picture of them there...
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#31
sure the threads only 6 monhs old and everything. And if you look in the TS sig, he already bought the amp...
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#33
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no, a read-before-you-post would be a better choice
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#35
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for the price of a Spider you could get a Peavey Valveking. Which is by far the better amp. i have played the Spider half stack next to my VK112, and the VK just sounds so natural in comparison. The Valveking is also massively louder.


once again, read before you post, TS has already bought an amp.

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