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#1
Hi Ug'ers.

Ive got about $500-600 AUD to spend on a guitar.

Looking for something that can shred, has a Floyd Rose and preferably be an ibanez RG lol.

Which model would suit me?
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#2
I did an exchange, and it said that was about 460 in us dollars. I think you would be better off to save up a little bit more. The floyd rose is what really kills you in that price range, because that is a pretty expensive bridge, and if they put that on a midrange guitar, all the other stuff on it would have to be crap to make up for the money spent on it.

So, you could either A. lower your standards to a non-floyd, or B.You could save up for a guitar with a floyd (which would also be better quality overall).
#3
550 Used on the Bay,

anything prestige really from ibanez.


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#4
Oh yeah, I forgot about that, but you didn't say you were willing to go used, and alot of people don't like buying guitars off ebay. But you could definately do alot better on there.
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I did an exchange, and it said that was about 460 in us dollars. I think you would be better off to save up a little bit more. The floyd rose is what really kills you in that price range, because that is a pretty expensive bridge, and if they put that on a midrange guitar, all the other stuff on it would have to be crap to make up for the money spent on it.

So, you could either A. lower your standards to a non-floyd, or B.You could save up for a guitar with a floyd (which would also be better quality overall).


yeah, or more likely, they put a piece of crap bridge on the guitar which is more bother than it's worth.

I'd say used rg550/570/560 or used 1570/1550. unless you can get up to the price of those new.
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#6
That's not much money dude. I got an RG1570 for $1000 used
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#8
I'm from Australia dude, i meant australian dollars. they rrp for $1500au over here
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#9
Oh, that makes sense, I guess I just automatically think american, since I am.............sorry about that.
#10
The RG370 should be about in your price range
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#12
I was looking at the RG370DX, as its only $400 USD.

Any good?

OR

Is there something higher quality without a FR but has a whammy bar.

I need this to do like Dive bombs etc as im playing Japanese metal etc.
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#13
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I was looking at the RG370DX, as its only $400 USD.

Any good?

OR

Is there something higher quality without a FR but has a whammy bar.

I need this to do like Dive bombs etc as im playing Japanese metal etc.


dont buy any of todays lower end models. the edge III sucks. i have a friend that really annoyed cause of the edge III. i say used s470..
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#14
yeah, the trem on the rg370 is poor.

seriously, rg550/570 second hand, or rg1550/1570 second hand. or else save up for one of those new. What's so hard to understand? it's counterproductive to go for something with an edge III.
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#15
Buy a used rg (1)550 / (1)570....
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#16
i second dave_ mc ang trailen. i also recommend used S series..
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#17
What's wrong with the edge III? I hear a lot of people complaining about it but no real explanation as to why
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#18
The knife edges (where the bridge pivots) are known to wear off within the first year, this makes the bridge unstable and the guitar will go out of tune easier.
#19
yeah, they don't use hardened steel for the knife edges on the cheaper Edge II/III trems, it's a more expensive process to make it stronger. When those start to wear down, it cause the trem to not ride perfectly on the studs, so tuning stability gets affected.
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#20
Can someone tell me what a knife edge is?? Where would I find them on my 1570?
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#21
Ok, you know the post things on each side of the bridge that go into the guitar? The knife edge is the indented part of the bridge that is in contact with those.

And you shouldn't have to worry, the 1570's are known to have good trems.
#22
+1 on the knife edges, my lo-trs's (forerunner of edge III) knife edges are eroded to hell.
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#23
Is that different from the low pro, I don't know that much about ibanez trems, but I've heard those are good.
#24
yeah, big difference in the lo-pro and lo-trs. The Lo-Pro was/is used on the high end models like the JEMs. The lo-pro is just a low profile Edge, like the Floyd Rose Pro compared to the OFR.

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yeah, the trem on the rg370 is poor.

seriously, rg550/570 second hand, or rg1550/1570 second hand. or else save up for one of those new. What's so hard to understand? it's counterproductive to go for something with an edge III.

+1
I have an old RG570 with an original Edge from 1986, and it's still got great tuning stability. Pic
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#25
My RG270 has never stayed in tune very well. when I dive I have to pull it back up to get it to pull back in tune. I replaced the original cheap bridge with the Edge atbout 11 years ago, and it has still never had much tuning stability.

Oh well, I rarely use ithe whammy anyway. and this guitar will soon be retired in favor of a 2007 ESP H-1001!
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#26
well, if you've been playing at least 11 years already, you probably know every setup trick. What I have found though, on alot of my friends guitars, the locking nut isn't working correctly and they didn't notice it. The little string retainer after the locking nut has to be pressing the strings down far enough, where they are resting in the little "v"'s at the top of the nut, so the strings are angled down after the nut. If the aren't sitting in the little V groove, the locking mechanism doesn't work as well. Another thing to check is the springs, I've found they can wear out after about 5 years if you use the trem enough. Also, sometimes the actual posts wear, where they get a flat wide spot, and that will affect stability. That's a shame it hasn't worked well for you, I've had great luck with all the original Edge and Edge Pro trems I've used.
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#27
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well, if you've been playing at least 11 years already, you probably know every setup trick. What I have found though, on alot of my friends guitars, the locking nut isn't working correctly and they didn't notice it. The little string retainer after the locking nut has to be pressing the strings down far enough, where they are resting in the little "v"'s at the top of the nut, so the strings are angled down after the nut. If the aren't sitting in the little V groove, the locking mechanism doesn't work as well. Another thing to check is the springs, I've found they can wear out after about 5 years if you use the trem enough. Also, sometimes the actual posts wear, where they get a flat wide spot, and that will affect stability. That's a shame it hasn't worked well for you, I've had great luck with all the original Edge and Edge Pro trems I've used.


Yeah, I have tried all kinds of things, but it never fails, When I hit the bar down, I have to pull it back up to reset the tuning. The strings ride under the trees and the nut seems to lock well. I have used a couple different sets of springs and there was no noticable difference. I had hoped that the tuning would be better with the upgraded bridge, but it really wasnt. Like I said, I rarely use the whammy at all anymore, so its no great loss and besides, I am really looking forward to the new ESP but they wont be out until march or april according to the stores I have talked to.
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#28
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I have an old RG570 with an original Edge from 1986, and it's still got great tuning stability. Pic


wow, that's a nice RG!

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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#30
Your going to need more money than that, $800 you can pick up some cheap stuff on the bay that'll last yoiu (kramers, chavel, ibanezs) otherwise your aint gonna get much!
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#31
I only have 1 problem with Ibanez... The bridges... I hate Edge III's... The bar doesnt screw in it just slides in, and very easily slides out whilst playing with it :/

ZR Tremolo.. That's what you want It's more like a hinge with springs on it
#33
wait so the original Edge Pro is the good one right? so the one on all prestige models right?


gah why does ibanez have to be so damn confusing for


well it's not that bad, but i'm not the brightest when it comes to trems


EDIT and why the hell are ibanezes so cheap??!?! i mean the 2... the one that's in the 2000's (don't remember the numbers) the one that comes in vital gold/silver is like $900 US

i freakin paid 1300 can for my guitar, a DV8-R

maybe cuz it was a signature guitar?
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#34
^ good ibanez trems are edge, edge pro, and lo-pro edge. ZR too, but it's a different design. Those exact trems, by the way- nothing with "II" or "III" in the title.
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#35
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yeah, the trem on the rg370 is poor.

seriously, rg550/570 second hand, or rg1550/1570 second hand. or else save up for one of those new. What's so hard to understand? it's counterproductive to go for something with an edge III.



The edge three isnt great, but its not as bad as everyone makes it out to be..... As long as you know how to maintain a floyd rose they arent bad.....
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^ I don't see why you'd go with something that's not great when you can go with something that's much better for not all that much more cash (or a similar amount if you go second hand).
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#38
Just for the record, my 1570 goes totally out of whack, out of tune on all strings, after any up-pull larger than about a whole step. I don't really up-pull though so i'm not too fussed.
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#39
needs a setup then. A properly setup Edge Pro shouldn't be going out of tune like that, unless you put new strings on it without stretching them.
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#40
and always make sure the bridge is parallel to the body....

lubricating the knife edges also helps a lot
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