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#1
So basically, I got an e-mail saying that I was illegally downloading/uploading a file and they have every right to take legal action against me. Then they want me to send them a "prompt response indicating the actions you have taken to resolve this matter."

Also, I'm in residence at university, so I don't want them to kick me out or anything.

So, what should I do?
#2
say sorry, it wasnt me, it was a hacker that did everything.
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#4
the chances are its only junk, i get pop ups all the time saying similar stuff, but it it is them, you need to rehearse your lies NOW!!!
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#6
I would imagine they would send you a letter, rather an email. Email is too risky for these kinds of matters, and they're not going to say they can take legal action and simply ask you what you've done to make it right. I'm betting it's someone who knows you d/l movies and wants you to delete them as a joke.
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#8
I'm pretty sure it's real because it was forwarded to me from my university, had the name of my university in the message, had the exact file name and the program i downloaded it with.

Seems real enough to me.
#10
Yeah it doesn't sound all that legit to me. Id bet its either someone like Daisy said, or its some thing that some computer dork decided to send around just for the hell of it to scare people. Or it could even possibly be the real people just sending out random emails trying to get people to confess to downloading stuff so they can prosecute them, although i doubt that one.
#12
I'll post the e-mail in a second to see if you guys think it's legit. I just gatta thake out a few things.
#13
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I'm pretty sure it's real because it was forwarded to me from my university, had the name of my university in the message, had the exact file name and the program i downloaded it with.

Seems real enough to me.



Giving a fake email address is really easy, so I'm told, so don't take that sort of thing too seriously. Maybe contact Universal, saying that you've received this email, and ask is it a fake (and make sure you say that you've never downloaded music in your life)? Or you could ignore it? Or ask your university computer techies about it, to see if they actually received this from Universal and if it's all correct and whatnot. Then worry.

#14
Here's the e-mail, or at least most of it.


Please be advised that NBC Universal and/or its subsidiary and affiliated companies (collectively, NBC Universal) are the owners of exclusive rights protected under copyright law and other intellectual property rights in many motion pictures and television programs, including the title(s) listed below (the NBC Universal Properties). NBC Universal diligently enforces its rights in its motion pictures.

It has come to our attention that my university is the service provider for the IP address listed below, from which unauthorized copying and distribution (downloading, uploading, file serving, file "swapping" or other similar activities) of NBC Universal's motion picture(s) listed below is taking place. We believe that the Internet access of the user engaging in this infringement is provided by my university or a downstream service provider who purchases this connectivity from my university.

This unauthorized copying and distribution constitutes copyright infringement under applicable national laws and international treaties. Although various legal and equitable remedies may be available to NBC Universal as a result of such infringement, NBC Universal believes that the entire Internet community benefits when these matters are resolved cooperatively. We urge you to take immediate action to stop this infringing activity and inform us of the results of your actions. We appreciate your efforts toward this common goal.

Please be advised that this letter is not intended to be a complete statement of the facts or law as they may pertain to this matter or of NBC Universal's positions, rights or remedies, legal or equitable, all of which are specifically reserved.

Please send us a prompt response indicating the actions you have taken to resolve this matter, making sure to reference the Notice ID number above in your response.

Very truly yours,

Internet Anti-Piracy Team,

Worldwide Anti-Piracy Operations

NBC UNIVERSAL

100 Universal City Plaza 1220/2

Universal City, CA 91608

tel. (818) 777-4876

fax (818) 866-2155

Title: Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas

Infringement Source: BitTorrent

Initial Infringement Timestamp: 5 Feb 2007 22:34:57 GMT

Recent Infringment Timestamp: 5 Feb 2007 22:34:57 GMT

Infringer Username:

Infringing Filename: [DivX] - Fear_and_Loathing_in_Las Vegas.avi

Infringing Filesize: 728008704

Infringers IP Address: -------

Infringers DNS Name: ------

Infringing URL: http://tracker.zerotracker.com:2710/announce
#15
um... maybe you should call the number and make sure this is legit. If it is, ask them what steps they want you to take to fix the situation, it seems like they want to solve this without prosecuting you, which is good. Also, it'd probably be good to say that this is the first thing you've ever downloaded. Say a friend just introduced you to the program and you've never used it before.
#16
Personally, I think it's a bit of bullshit. There are programs (that anyone can use) that can analyse your internet activity and then just send the information in a formal looking manner as an e-mail. I'd have thought that they'd have sent you a letter via post. Plus, I thought it was only illegal if you illegally distrubuted/uploaded to people not downloading from someone.
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#17
'It has come to our attention that my university is the service provider for the IP address listed below'

That makes no sense.

Why in a letter that seems to be from the collective company refer to your university as theirs and why use singular rather than plural?

They list file name and time which seem very precise. A little too precise to be the local dork.

Well with music you're allowed to download it to listen to a band and be encouraged to buy their stuff but its illegal if you burn them to cd and sell them on or use it to deny the record company their money.

Maybe its the same with films?
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#18
^ he changed the letter. he didnt want the name of his university or any of his personal info in there so he put in "my university" instead of whatever the university name is
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^ he changed the letter. he didnt want the name of his university or any of his personal info in there so he put in "my university" instead of whatever the university name is


He could have said
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#21
You need to send them a fat email that says "SHARING IS CARING" in a huge font.
#23
It looks pretty legit, Universal are the distributers for Fear and Loathing, and I'm assuming you actually did download the file they say you did? I think: ring the number, check it's real, if so, tell them that you have already deleted it. You might want to shove the file on a disk, then actually delete it too. Make sure you aren't sharing any files either. But first of all, check it's real. Also make sure your uni doesn't route all internet traffic through one IP address, otherwise singling out a specific computer in the uni would be impossible. So yeah, check it's real, then talk and delete your way out of a sueing.

#24
You could reply saying (meaning you actually haven't) you have removed bittorrent and the file in question and if you get a reply saying 'ROFL YOU ARE T3H SUXXORS UZ HAXXORS WINZ AGAIN!' then laugh at them. If however you get a formal reply of gratitude then DELETE THEM since then its definitely them!!!
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#25
I dunno, I smell bullshit right off the bat. If it is legit maybe say that you own Fear and Loathing but your DVD was soo scratched you couldn't watch it and that you were only downloading something you already owned. It's a long shot but meh. If that fails to work send them a huge box of chocolates with "I'm Sorry" written in huge letters. *note* Reversal of one of the R's is very important.
#26
Ring and check if the number is real, if it's real then you're screwed mate......
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#29
strange thing is 100 universal city plaza is the ampitheatre building, while the company hq is situated at 10 universal city plaza.
#30
Email them back and say that you've deleted the file and uninstalled the program. This same thing happened to my friend, and thats what he did.
#31
What film did they catch you downloading? Whatever it is, just go out to a shop and buy it with cash. Then all you have to do is say you were downloading the film as a copy and that you already own the material. Sorted.
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#32
^^Exactly. Then you just say you were using it as backup. Just scratch the effing disk or something...
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#33
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Jesus has saved the day. Use that ^ and you've got a surefire way out of a sueing. I mean, who could resist when people care?
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#34
I thought that the University would use the same IP. So, threadstarter, if you have never seen/heard/ downloaded this movie then it will be someone else - either on your PC or on the Uni's IP.
If it is you, do what people said already and tell them its backup.
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#35
Basically, you shouldn't download on a Uni IP - they get checked. A lot.

It looks legit to me.

Also, it looks like its a warning, they're threatening legal action. They're just looking for you to delete the files and the software and give your assurances that it won't happen again.

I urge you to comply with them.
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#36
Check. Make sure its Legit. If it is. Apologise profusly. Deleate in and all related files and aplications and go out and buy the dvd.
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#37
I think it's fake.

I Googled the phone/fax numbers. Neither of them match the actual phone numbers of Universal, which can be found here.

Also, the grammatical errors in the message are a clear sign that it's not real. Trust me, it it were real they wouldn't be there.

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#38
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What film did they catch you downloading? Whatever it is, just go out to a shop and buy it with cash. Then all you have to do is say you were downloading the film as a copy and that you already own the material. Sorted.


There was a thread a while back where Dirk Gently said this wouldn't be of any help. If this email does turn out to be legit check out this thread for some help on it: https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=424056&highlight=illegal+downloading
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