#1
Im looking for a tube half stack for around 1500 dollars. I play oasis/interpol/red hot chili peppers type music. I dont need great cleans since I never play clean theres always slight distortion. But I want to be able to have great hard rock distortion aswell. Any suggetions?
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#2
Hmm sir you have a bit of a dlilema here, you might be able to find a JCM800 for about that.. but I say check Ebay, an aronage rcker 30 with a 2X12 would do what your talkin about well... I dunno look at ebay, check out Trayno ombos too they are faily decne4t middle ground for cleans and dirt.
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#5
alright well the 800 has one channel right? So Lets say I want to go from slight distorted to quite a bit of distortion mid song? I have to have the amp on slight distortion then I have to turn on a distortion pedal? I mean like the jcm 800 has such good distortortion, so why should i like 'waste' it by using a distortion pedal instead
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#7
Buy a cab form avatar (about 300-400 bucks) then use rest for a head.
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#8
hmm, do you guys think half stacks have any advantages over combo amps?
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#9
Quote by The Iron Man
hmm, do you guys think half stacks have any advantages over combo amps?

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#10
yeah they do, they project sound better, are easier to fix, and the tubes wont rattel as much when you play loud which sounds better and makes the tubes last longer.
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#11
Im actually leaning towards the orange rocker 30 head now. I guess ill go to the shop and try one out then.
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#12
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#13
Yup, the rocker 30 is a real good amp, you won't regret it. But you should also look into the jcm 800 some time, if you wish.

Good luck to you then.
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#14
holy crap I just realised this will cost me a fortune.

Orange rocker 30 head: 1400 canadian
orange cab 2x12: 980 canadian
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this will cost me 2710 canadian dollars with tax. Damn, maybe I should get the combo. its not even a 4x12 cab.
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#15
Carvin Legacy perhaps, i quite like it. Its made specifically for Steve Vai, or either try the v3, both are amazing amps.
#16
Get a JCM800 2 channel. 2210 or 2205 model (difference is just wattage, 100 or 50)

You can get a half stack for around 1300-1500 on ebay. Basically the 1st channel is an early breakup kinda distortion perfect for rhythm (or clean if you turn the channel volume down and crank the master). then the 2nd channel is boosted for lead and heavier stuff.
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#17
JCM800, 900 or (different flavour, but same styles) an Orange Rocker or AD.

And why do you need a half stack? Just get a combo.
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#18
he can afford a good halfstack pretty easily, and half stacks vastly out perform combos for the reasons i mentioned above.
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#20
I just meant get a combo if you can't afford the head and cab 'coz the combos are usually cheaper, but if you can afford them, go for it.
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#21
I just dont want to regret buying a combo later on when I have unlimited funds. I guess I could just hook my combo up to a cab...
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#22
Laugh....Yeah, for a while I had my Vox Pathfinder hooked up to a Marshall Cab. It Really rocked, but still not that loud. If you like VOX, go for a VOX AC30 Head with that cab, it will run you around 1,300.
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#23
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I just meant get a combo if you can't afford the head and cab 'coz the combos are usually cheaper, but if you can afford them, go for it.

+1
#24
I find the orange combos and head+cab to be oddly attractive
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#25
^I know, I honestly think Oranges are the best lookin' amps.
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#26
well yeah, they are, but a big part of that's their color.
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#27
*Claps slowly*

haha
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#28
As soon as I find an head/cabinet/combo in white trim with metallic black hardware, I'll be sold.
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#29
Id love triple recto with solid flat black diamond plate casing, and a flame maple face plate, in dark blue,with the mesa frong grill a bit bigger so you can see the tubes glow when the stag is dark... and all the knobs to look like these..

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#30
you guys think the combo's are good bang for the buck? I was talking to someone and they said 2 things

-a lot of it is paying for the name
-why are you paying so much for only 30 watts
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#31
^Well, I'm just saying from past experiences with tube amps (f-30) that 30 watts is ALOT. I almost bled out my ears just to top another level on the master volume, it sounded so nice.

As for the name, aren't you doing that with everything these days?

Another thing, if you can afford half stacks, go ahead and purchase it.
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#32
An honest question here.

If you connect an orange rocker 30 combo to a orange 2x12 cabinet, will it have a simliar fullness to the half stack? Kind of a redundant question as asked above, but does it?

I don't think I can afford getting a orange half stack either (they'll run me up near 2k USD and I can only afford 1,000-1,400 right now). I just don't want to regret it either.

aye, i'm worrying too much. I think i'm comming to a realization that I don't need a half stack...at all; plays at home, plays gigs up to 300-400 people, band practice, don't need 234234 tube wattage.

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Last edited by Jinskee at Feb 10, 2007,
#33
Quote by Jinskee
An honest question here.

If you connect an orange rocker 30 combo to a orange 2x12 cabinet, will it have a simliar fullness to the half stack? Kind of a redundant question as asked above, but does it?

I don't think I can afford getting a orange half stack either (they'll run me up near 2k USD and I can only afford 1,000-1,400 right now). I just don't want to regret it either.

aye, i'm worrying too much. I think i'm comming to a realization that I don't need a half stack...at all; plays at home, plays gigs up to 300-400 people, band practice, don't need 234234 tube wattage.

*shakes*

You can get a Rocker 30 combo now, and later down the line you can buy an orange 2x12. You don't have to buy it all at once.
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#34
^Indeed.
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