#1
After being out of basketball for a few years, former NBA player John Amaechi came out and publicly admitted he is gay yesterday. A former coach of his said that it is good that he came out and commended him on being such a great person. Big time player Grant Hill said that it is good that he had the confidence to come out. He said that we need to break down the barrier or no gays in sports.

I, for one, agree completely with Grant Hill. It is about time someone had the confidence to come out. It should not be wrong to be gay and play in sports. I don't think it should matter whether a person is gay or not. Judge the person by his character, not by his sexuality.

Now, all of that being said, there has been some really dumb comments coming from some active players. A backup for the Philadelphia 76ers, I don't remember his name, said, "As long as he doesn't bring out his gayness upon me, I'm fine." It is because of stupidity like this that gays are afraid to come out, or even play sports period. It's pathetic.

Even Lebron James commented by saying something like, "Teams are built on trust. If someone keeps something like that from his teammates, he is untrustworthy." This makes Lebron look bad. It should not matter whether a person is gay or not. That is for them to know, it isn't much of anyone's business. If a player feels like coming out, they should not get bashed for doing so. They shouldn't feel forced to come out either. If they want to come out, it is their decision.

So, now that I have said my piece, what do you guys think?
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Even Lebron James commented by saying something like, "Teams are built on trust. If someone keeps something like that from his teammates, he is untrustworthy." This makes Lebron look bad. It should not matter whether a person is gay or not. That is for them to know, it isn't much of anyone's business. If a player feels like coming out, they should not get bashed for doing so. They shouldn't feel forced to come out either. If they want to come out, it is their decision.



But he's exactly right. It's not because he's gay he has a problem, it's the fact that you need to be able to trust your team mates, and you do.
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But he's exactly right. It's not because he's gay he has a problem, it's the fact that you need to be able to trust your team mates, and you do.

Doesn't mean he needs to tell he's gay though
#7
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Doesn't mean he needs to tell he's gay though



It still shows lack of trust.

It means;

A - Gay person doesn't trust team mates

and in turn

B - Team mates can't trust gay person
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But he's exactly right. It's not because he's gay he has a problem, it's the fact that you need to be able to trust your team mates, and you do.

I also agree
#12
Going around in the closet is pretty untrustworthy. I came out almost as soon as I realized that I'm gay.
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#13
...Big deal. He's gay.I don't care. Live and let live.
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Yes. Yes I am. And I can't figure out if your mocking me.
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#16
on the one hand, its ok he is gay. on the other hand, it is bad for the team if he is staring at the other guys in the shower.

if you were in a girls locker room, don't you think they would be uncomfortable?
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#17
^ Just because he's gay, dumbass, doesn't mean he's going to be hitting on guys and staring at them in the shower.

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#18
well, i guess you don't understand sexual attraction, seeing as how your 12. dumbass
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#19
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well, i guess you don't understand sexual attraction, seeing as how your 12. dumbass


You are the dumbass, just because he is gay why would he be checking out his teamates, and presumably good friends. Id say you wouldnt do the same for your female friends but that would almost certainly be untrue for an idiot like yourself.

It takes a lot of guts to come out in sports, especially high profile ones like NBA. Heck, Andrew Goldstein remains pretty much the only person who ever admitted he was gay while playing a college team sport (he was goalie at for Dartmouth lacrosse). Fair play to the man.
#20
being gay means being sexually attracted to men.

now, if you've ever played a team sport, you know that you're not always friends with all of them, and if you have a friend who is a girl and is smoking hot, than you are most likely attracted to her.

the same goes for gay guys.
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#21
While I don't think it should matter if the guys gay or not, I think Lebron has a point. How would you feel if you were on this guys team and he may or may not have been staring at your package in the showers and you didnt know it? Personally if I was a teammate I would've liked to have known, and thats all Lebron is saying.
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While I don't think it should matter if the guys gay or not, I think Lebron has a point. How would you feel if you were on this guys team and he may or may not have been staring at your package in the showers and you didnt know it? Personally if I was a teammate I would've liked to have known, and thats all Lebron is saying.



I understand that. I heard a guy on a sports channel say that it is important to tell your teammates that you are gay because they are your "family" and you should let them know. I think that is bogus because you are pretty much forcing someone to come out and say that he/she is gay. Let's say that you are having problems with your actual family and you are a basketball player. You shouldn't have to tell your teammates about that should you?

I think it is stupid to do that to someone. How can a guy check out a girl all he wants without telling her and it is okay, yet, a guy is checking out you (if you are a guy) and you freak out and tell him that you should know. That is dumb. If the player is comfortable enough to come out, that is fine, but if the player isn't comfortable enough, he/she should not be forced to do it.
#23
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I think it is stupid to do that to someone. How can a guy check out a girl all he wants without telling her and it is okay, yet, a guy is checking out you (if you are a guy) and you freak out and tell him that you should know. That is dumb. If the player is comfortable enough to come out, that is fine, but if the player isn't comfortable enough, he/she should not be forced to do it.



That's the point, he's supposed to be comfortable around his family/friends/team.
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#24
Lebron has a point about trust... but i don't think gayness is something that applies to that. Would any of the plays or practices be any different if the whole team knew the guy was gay? I've never heard of any sports team running a specially planned "fag pattern..." It's not as though you can say "oh, hey, now that we have a gay guy on the team, we have to change a few of these plays..."

As long as the gay guy in question wasn't causing any unwelcome confusion in the locker room, or having his own issues that affect his performance on the team, there's no difference.
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While I don't think it should matter if the guys gay or not, I think Lebron has a point. How would you feel if you were on this guys team and he may or may not have been staring at your package in the showers and you didnt know it? Personally if I was a teammate I would've liked to have known, and thats all Lebron is saying.


so... if Lebron KNEW the guy was gay, he could have made a big uncomfortable deal out of it by turning away from him every time he though his wang might be in sight, and carefully timing his shower so he doesn't have to go near the naked gay dude.

good lord... why do all homophobes think that gay people have nothing better to do than stare at cocks in the locker room. believe it or not, gay people can get porn too! Gay guys have their own dicks! It's not like they're just now finally getting a chance to check out some naked guys...

And on top of that, why do ALL homophobic guys think that gays want THEM? I mean, i'm straight, but i use discretion when it comes to which girls i want to sleep with. I wouldn't sleep with some disgusting fat 45 year old woman just because i'm straight... nor would i check her out if i had the opportunity.... i'd say maybe 1 girl out of 100 is "qualified" for me to try and get with her...

and for gays, there's even less of them (10% or something like that)... AND they have to try to find guys who are also gay, so that they can actually do stuff with them, not get their ass kicked in a change room... it's not like you get "converted" if a dick goes in your bum, so they try and find actual gay people to be with.

what i'm getting at is that there's a bigger problem with gay guys getting their asses kicked for no good reason, than there is with straight guys getting randomly gay-raped in the change room.
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#27
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That's the point, he's supposed to be comfortable around his family/friends/team.



Some people don't even tell their own family that they are gay. How can you expect them to tell their teammates? Also, with the way the game is today, chances are, the player is going to be gone from the team in a short amount of time. I can only imagine it would be tough to tell guys, that you might know for a short amount of time, that you are gay.
#28
I guess it shouldn't really matter, but I think Lebron is kind of right, you shouldn't keep huge secrets no matter what they are. But, again I suppose it shouldn't really be others' business as well =\
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