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Okay,Ive been practicing sweep picking and alot of faster advanced lead techniques. Been getting them down good and at Great speed,1 problem,SLOPPYness. Ive been trying to clean it up so other strings dont ring out as much but thats when I read in a magazine article featuring Jon Petrucci that he used to use a Wrist band or sock over the First fret to mute the strings so he didnt have to. So I tried it and it works like a dream,im doing sweep runs and fast based lead licks that sound amazing...but I feel guility when im doing it,almost as if im cheating by having this on. But I figured,hey,if Jon does it,why cant it? I checked into it and learned alot of other big Guitar players have done it,but it brings me back,Is it CHeating or No? And if it is,what are some good ways to clean up my playing? And also,does anyone else use this little trick?

#2
I wouldn't consider it cheating, but if your technique is bad enough that you need a sock to play cleanly, you should just work on your technique, because having a sock in the first fret limits what you're able to do.
#3
you should practice cleaning it up without, and play life with it if you want. i dont think its cheating really, but its not exremely impressive if your trying to show off,
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i do it once in awhile... but not so much anymore... work on playing clean rather than first... then work on speed once you're playing it cleanly
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i say if it sounds good n works who cares... n if the pros are doing it then why would it matter if someone else did it
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I think its a little bit of cheating, because you can get clean with practice if you take the time.
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#7
I wouldn't call it cheating; but I would say it limits your potential by allowing you to learn sloppiness. In the studio, I might use one, because you do whatever you need to do. Live however, it wouldn't feel right.
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I wouldn't consider it cheating, but if your technique is bad enough that you need a sock to play cleanly, you should just work on your technique, because having a sock in the first fret limits what you're able to do.
I have to agree with that..

Actually, I'd just use the old sweep picking muting method... You remove your fingers off the strings after picking them... that should be enough for muting them if you do it correctly... if you don't do it correctly, practice because, well I don't consider it cheating for you can't cheat on guitar, you can do whatever you want... but it's lame
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#11
Like everything on guitar, if you put enough time into it you can do it. For some it takes longer than others. But the best way to do it is the right way, which puts the least limitations on yourself. You get there by paying your dues (like I said, alot of practice time), and then you feel more accomplished and better about your playing. If you take a shortcut, where does it get you to faster? More shortcuts.

I couldn't use a sock if I wanted to anyway, seeing as how the sweeps and tapping parts I play are small solos and fills. Like someone said though, I'll probably be using a sock in the studio. It has to be flawless, and the sock will ensure less takes.
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#12
If you start doing this now , after a while you will NOT be able to play without the dampener.Its cheating to play like this all the time.
I use my homemade dampener when im recording leads etc to make the sound cleaner, but when playing gigs or practicng its better to play without it.

Oh and its very good to practice sweep and tapping (not always) with a massive distortion because like this you will put in more effort to make it sound good.

Just practice hard and youl get there.
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You can't really cheat with music.


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You know, they can be used for different purposes. It is definitely useful for muting the other side of the string when you tap. Victor Wooten uses them for this purpose, I know. And if you're going to be the next Stanley Jordan or something, they would pretty much be necessary.

But if you're just using it for sweeping, I say drop it. It looks way cooler to reach over with your picking hand to mute the strings
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For recording/studio purposes....nope not at all considering even the pro's do this in the studio to get the cleanest sound possible(especially when for bands that use tons of heavy distortion)

Playing like that live....cheating in my mind. You should be able to play it clean enough to play live without sounding extremely sloppy. The sock trick is not supposed to be a "hide my sloppy playing" trick. It's to make sure you get the cleanest sound possible without any unwanted feeback or distortion during the recording process, since with high gain sometimes things just ring out in strange places.

Bottom line, pros use it in the studio and thats where it should stay.
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For recording/studio purposes....nope not at all considering even the pro's do this in the studio to get the cleanest sound possible(especially when for bands that use tons of heavy distortion)

Playing like that live....cheating in my mind. You should be able to play it clean enough to play live without sounding extremely sloppy. The sock trick is not supposed to be a "hide my sloppy playing" trick. It's to make sure you get the cleanest sound possible without any unwanted feeback or distortion during the recording process, since with high gain sometimes things just ring out in strange places.

Bottom line, pros use it in the studio and thats where it should stay.


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It's not cheating per se, but it's going to hold you back in the long run. But it is a useful trick for recording.
#19
No, not at all

always practice in the situation where your mistakes are most evident. That way you can correct them before you learn the wrong way.
#20
It's a handy trick if say, you wanted to record a sweep solo but you hadn't got your technique down properly at that time. But you can't really use it live can you?
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