#1
There is way to much feedback. i know its partially my amp because its a peavey5150 and if you have the gain on 6 and volume on 2 it feedbacks really back. I know there is things you can do to your pickups but i just don't know what.
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#3
I have a peavey valveking and I have a little feedback too when I put the gain up around 7 or 8. The pickups on your guitar might be too close to the strings; try lower them. To do this, it depends on what type of guitar you have, but usually there are two small screws on the top of the pickups that you rotate with a screwdriver to raise or lower the pickup.
#4
Your pickups should already be wax potted. Where are you standing in relation to the amp? And noise suppressors/compressors won't kill feedback.
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#5
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And noise suppressors/compressors won't kill feedback.


Wow, that's strange, cause mine sure does...
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#6
Noise suppressor pedal, like a Boss NS2. Mine works wonders on my Peavey XXX. Definately kills the hum and shit to stop the feedback.
#7
I'm not sure what kind of noise suppressor you're using, so I won't debate that, but how would a compressor, which just evens out the volume of played notes, suppress feedback? Doesn't make sense. So sigging me for that just makes you look stupid.
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#8
And roll off the gain a bit. This way people will actually be able to hear all that hard work you do with improving on the guitar Gain is a great way to cover up errors in playing, it's always a great way to keep yourself from improving.
#9
Yeah, my friend uses the NS-2 and i have an older Peavy Noise Compressor/Sustainor Pedal, the Noise Compression is godly. Also, i don't believe that the distortion isn't a "cover of mistakes" it can be if you use it wrong... but not so if you know how to use it...
#10
This is the product information for the BOSS NS-2 on Musician's Friend:

Suppress the noise without squashing your sound.

The Boss NS-2 Noise Suppressor Pedal effectively eliminates noise and hum from the input signal while preserving the original sound's tonality. Natural attack and envelope remain unaffected by suppression of the noise components.

That's fine and dandy, but that's not what feedback is. Feedback is not extraneous noise caused by poor grounding, noisy effects, or 60 cycle hum from single coil pickups, etc. Feedback is essentially the pickups or microphone hearing its own signal coming from the speakers. There are feedback eliminator pedals/devices out there, but this is not the same as a run-of-the-mill noise suppressor. I challenge you to find me one reliable source that says noise suppressors are used to kill feedback. The only situation where a noise suppressor would kill feedback is if your rig was so noisy that the noise was what was causing the feedback to begin with. And again, a compressor does nothing to eliminate feedback because that's not what a compressor does. But thanks for playing You Have No Idea What You're Talking About. You're today's winner!
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#11
Wait, he's not actually saying a COMPRESSOR is cutting down feedback??

That's ridiculous.
#12
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Yeah...i have an older Peavy Noise Compressor/Sustainor Pedal, the Noise Compression is godly.

I'm still trying to figure out what the hell "noise compression" is.
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#13
If the cheapo built-in compressor on my amp is any indication, it makes the noise just as loud as the notes you're playing...
#14
I think that's the first time I've seen somebody pwn themselves in their own sig

Compressors make shedloads of noise, that's why it's pretty much a given that if you run one in your rig you need a noise gate too. Feedback could just be down to dodgy EQ'ing, or it could be a guitar issue eg microphonic pickups - poor shielding.

My favourite anti-feedback advice is "Turn your amp down" ...you get feedback when the strings are affected by the air pressure produced by your speakers. If you play too loud in a small space or too close to the amp you get feedback. If you can't get more than a few feet away from the amp and your getting constant feedback then you simply have to bite the bullet and turn down...there's no arguing with physics.
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#16
put the amp in front of u when u play.

and pick up a delay pedal too, cause just like noise compressors, they are great at stopping feedback. /sarcasm.

maybe i should add that to my sig.
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#17
A noise suppressor will stop feedback if you're using lots of gain, or at least make it tighter. The volume of the signal won't be loud enough to send the pickups into feedback.

What pickups are you using?
#18
As someone said above, your pickups should already have been potted in wax, BUT are you sure you don't have a pickup that has gone microphonic? Even potted pickups can get this way with time. There have been only two times over the years that I could not get feedback under control, even with high gain amps...both were microphonic pickups...easily fixed at home or by a tech

This might help: http://www.guitarnuts.com/technical/electrical/index.php
#19
^well that wouldnt be both pups. if he were to switch to the other, he would notice if only one needed to be repotted.

unless of course it a real cheapo guitar. in that case a pup swap or upgrade is needed anyway.
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#20
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or it could be a guitar issue eg microphonic pickups - poor shielding.
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How do you solve this problem?
#21
like said up there. take apart the guitar. foil line the cavity, check the connections , take off the pickups, repot them in wax, or swap them out for better pups. put the guitar back together again.
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#22
OK, here's my two cents, I'm no expert, but I have had this happen to me. I'm kind of ashamed to admit this, but I once stored an old Gibson in the attic of my girlfriend while I moved. After that, the feedback was awful.

I took the guitar into the shop and was told that they pickups went "microphonic" because the wax used for potting melted. I was told that this actually happens a lot when people leave their guitars in the trunks of cars in the summer. Supposedly, the copper coils are "potted" in wax so they don't vibrate, or feed back.

A new set of pickups cured the problem..
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#24
Yeah my gain goes to ten and it starts to feedback on 5. i don't like alot of gain because like someone else said it covers up my mistakes. I usually play it on 5 and the volume on 2-3. Thats very loud actually. I stand atleast five or 6 feet with my back away from my amp. Hypothetical question...... If a few of the coil wires get cut or damaged, will it mess up the pickup? Like make it two where you can barely hear it? Hypothetical.
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#25
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like said up there. take apart the guitar. foil line the cavity, check the connections , take off the pickups, repot them in wax, or swap them out for better pups. put the guitar back together again.

I am not to good with electronics so if there was something was wrong with the connection i won't be able to tell unless its obvious. What do you mean by foil line the cavity? But yeah i put wax on my neck pickup and now its not working very good. you can hardly hear it. When i repot them in wax do i have to take the black tape-like stuff of to where its just the bare coil wire? or just leave the black tape-like stuff on
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#26
As far as "foil lining" goes, go to www.guitarnuts.com and check out the articles on shielding. It's essentially taking copper foil tape, covering the entire cavity of the guitar where pickups and electronics go, and then grounding it.
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#27
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I'm not sure what kind of noise suppressor you're using, so I won't debate that, but how would a compressor, which just evens out the volume of played notes, suppress feedback? Doesn't make sense. So sigging me for that just makes you look stupid.

Dude, you said that a Noise Surpressor pedal doesn't supress noise. Lolz. I will agree with you on a Compressor pedal, if anything they'll increase the level of feedback!
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#28
^ No, I said a noise suppressor doesn't suppress feedback. Feedback is not noise the same way poorly-grounded electronics, single coil pickups, or other sources of electromagnetic interference are "noise," which is what a noise suppressor is made for.
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