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I know a lot of you look down on people who wear Che shirts because you say that what the shirt stands for (against capitalism and free enterprise), but some people think that if Che were alive today, he'd stand for something totally different. He really stood not only for anti-Capitalism and such, but he also stood for the poor. That's the main reason I think some people would wear his shirt. To stand for the poor. Today, unfortunately, many rich people only use money for their own benifit, but if someone had something going right in their minds, I think they would use it to benefit the poor, so that they could better themselves. What I'm saying is that, you can't compare someone from the 50's to whats going on right now. So, the meaning can change.


Does this make sense to any of you? Do you think this is what the shirt could stand for in our time? I can try to clear this up after some of you have put out your own thoughts on this subject, so yeah, discuss...
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Unless I'm mistaken Che supported violent revolution. So yeah, he can burn in hell. Commie!
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ok, so if they support the poor, why are the helping rich people exploit someones face for profit while the poor suffer?
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ok, so if they support the poor, why are the helping rich people exploit someones face for profit while the poor suffer?



You have a point, but if someone stenciled his image on a shirt, I think it'd make more sense. But, yeah, you point makes a lotta sense now that I think about it.
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Unless I'm mistaken Che supported violent revolution. So yeah, he can burn in hell. Commie!


Yeah, the violence was directed at a violent, totalatarian regime.

With your logic, America should have tried talking the Japanese into surrender, and Europe should have befriended the Nazis into submission.

Think before you speak, moron.

Anyways, I'd love to own a Che shirt. If only there was one not made by greedy exploiters.
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Che also had a lot of non-violent people killed. A lot of the violence from Ches groups where directed not only at various regimes but also at anyone who didnt support communism.
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Dude Che Guevara is a hero OK. If youve ever read about him or even seen Motorcycle Diaries then you can tell what his mission was. He was trying to help end poverty in south america. Anyone who looks down on him for doing that is a ****in retard.
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Why are peole making such a big deal out of a little t-shirt
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Unless I'm mistaken Che supported violent revolution. So yeah, he can burn in hell. Commie!


And of course George Washington and Co. just sat down and had a nice chat over a cup of tea with the king to discuss America's independence?
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I know a lot of you look down on people who wear Che shirts because you say that what the shirt stands for (against capitalism and free enterprise), but some people think that if Che were alive today, he'd stand for something totally different. He really stood not only for anti-Capitalism and such, but he also stood for the poor. That's the main reason I think some people would wear his shirt. To stand for the poor. Today, unfortunately, many rich people only use money for their own benifit, but if someone had something going right in their minds, I think they would use it to benefit the poor, so that they could better themselves. What I'm saying is that, you can't compare someone from the 50's to whats going on right now. So, the meaning can change.


Does this make sense to any of you? Do you think this is what the shirt could stand for in our time? I can try to clear this up after some of you have put out your own thoughts on this subject, so yeah, discuss...


There is nothing inherently wrong with wearing a Che shirt. Whats wrong is when big brand name companies manufacture the shirt and sell them to 14 year olds with mommie's credit card at the local mall. I bought a Che shirt from Cuba, and I wear it. But I'm also a socialist, and most people who wear the shirt think he was from Rage Against the Machine or something and don't even know anything about the guy, which is unfortunate. He led an archetypal heroic life and did as much as he could to make the world a better place, and thats why I wear a shirt with his face on it.
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Unless I'm mistaken Che supported violent revolution. So yeah, he can burn in hell. Commie!

You live in the united states you ****ing idiot. Your country was founded on violent revolution. Revolution is necessary when governments become despotic.
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You obviously don't know what you are talking about, seeing as Ché left Cuba after the revolution in order to fight in other suppressed areas. You're thinking of Castro, who has the support of the cuban people. Also, he gave anyone that wanted to leave the right to leave after he took power. He provided free education, free housing, free healthcare to everyone as well as food to those who need it. He nationalised industry and kicked out imperialists. Castro is a hero.
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Yeah, the violence was directed at a violent, totalatarian regime.

With your logic, America should have tried talking the Japanese into surrender, and Europe should have befriended the Nazis into submission. And, by the way, guess who was the head of the totalitarian regime? I'll give you a hint, it was the United States.

Think before you speak, moron.


Anyways, I'd love to own a Che shirt. If only there was one not made by greedy exploiters.

Same goes to you, the Japanese had already offered conditional terms of surrender when you dropped the first bomb. Then you dropped a second one.
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Dude Che Guevara is a hero OK. If youve ever read about him or even seen Motorcycle Diaries then you can tell what his mission was. He was trying to help end poverty in south america. Anyone who looks down on him for doing that is a ****in retard.


He also supported torture and killing innocent people. real hero there. I personally think kids should wear Stalin T-shirts he looked a whole lot cooler.
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most of the People who wear them shirts know nothing about Ché and do not try to represent the poor condidering they wear it for fashion



Yep its true....
i have a friend who has the shirt... and i asked him who che is...
and then he said: i dunno....

Wow...
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Yeah, the violence was directed at a violent, totalatarian regime.

With your logic, America should have tried talking the Japanese into surrender, and Europe should have befriended the Nazis into submission.

Think before you speak, moron.

Anyways, I'd love to own a Che shirt. If only there was one not made by greedy exploiters.

You wanna go take a look at Martin Luther King Jr. and Ghandi and say that again?

**** Che.
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You wanna go take a look at Martin Luther King Jr. and Ghandi and say that again?

**** Che.


Gandhi and King were completely different cases you idiot. Ché wasn't fighting for racial equality, he was fighting for a revolution.
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