#1
Can anyone help me dial a Black Metal Tone similar to Dark Fortress? I've had conflicting advice on how to get it. My gear is Marshall MG 250/ Jackson R Rhoads/ Boss MT2/ Electro-haermonix metal Muff/
Thanx a lot
#2
dial in all gain high... and all treble and bass up high... low to 1 mid.
Last edited by Jeff Manthei at Feb 13, 2007,
#3
i'd just stick with the MT-2 but use the bass on the amp eq to beef it up a bit.

on the MT-2 go for full bass and treb and take those mids right down.
#4
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i'd just stick with the MT-2 but use the bass on the amp eq to beef it up a bit.

on the MT-2 go for full bass and treb and take those mids right down.

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#5
I didn't know black metal guitarists cared about their tone that much.
J/k.

Anyway, from what I've heard of black metal (Emperor, Schlectvalk, Bathory, etc.) I think you'd want Bass around 8 or 9, Mids at about 5 or 6, and highs close to topped out.
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#7
Lord Ahriman from Dark Funeral uses a Warlock with Seymour Duncan Live Metal Wire pickups through a Mesa Dual Rectifier. He would not tell me his eq settings, but I will probably find out eventually. Gotta hate when guitarists guard their settings like it is the holy grail.

EDIT: I noticed alot of people saying to do the old death metal massive bass, massive treble with zero mids. If you listen to alot of black metal bands, you can hear that they indeed use a nice bit of midrange to fill out their sound. Mids are a VITAL component to creating a sound that is distinguishable in both live and recording situations. Especially when speed picking single notes.
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Last edited by myMesa8mybrain at Feb 13, 2007,
#8
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Lord Ahriman from Dark Funeral uses a Warlock with Seymour Duncan Live Metal Wire pickups through a Mesa Dual Rectifier. He would not tell me his eq settings, but I will probably find out eventually. Gotta hate when guitarists guard their settings like it is the holy grail.

EDIT: I noticed alot of people saying to do the old death metal massive bass, massive treble with zero mids. If you listen to alot of black metal bands, you can hear that they indeed use a nice bit of midrange to fill out their sound. Mids are a VITAL component to creating a sound that is distinguishable in both live and recording situations. Especially when speed picking single notes.



Thanx a lot for the info. I can hear a fair amount of midrange too in black metal tone. Any guess on Lord Ahriman settings?
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Thanx a lot for the info. I can hear a fair amount of midrange too in black metal tone. Any guess on Lord Ahriman settings?


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#13
Yeah, corny name aside he can really play guitar quite well. Guess it was just a matter of subculture or whatever.

As far as his settings I know he has a Mesa Dual Rectifier, set on Modern. I would try Gain between 7-10, Bass on 6, Mids anywhere from 5-7 and Treble on about 5-7. Set the presence under halfway. Toy around with that and see what it needs from there. I would not go too heavy on bass though. It tends to muck up the sound. Just increase whatever sounds lacking and you will have a sound suitable for that genre. Hope that helps a bit.
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#14
didn't caligula bathe in the blood of his hot sisters?

he was like this emperor/hannibal lector of rome.
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Quote by myMesa8mybrain
Yeah, corny name aside he can really play guitar quite well. Guess it was just a matter of subculture or whatever.

As far as his settings I know he has a Mesa Dual Rectifier, set on Modern. I would try Gain between 7-10, Bass on 6, Mids anywhere from 5-7 and Treble on about 5-7. Set the presence under halfway. Toy around with that and see what it needs from there. I would not go too heavy on bass though. It tends to muck up the sound. Just increase whatever sounds lacking and you will have a sound suitable for that genre. Hope that helps a bit.


Thanx a million bro, that really helped . I'm closer to my elusive black metal tone than ever before. Now I need to get myself a Mesa and get rid of my useless Marshall.
#16
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Lord Ahriman from Dark Funeral uses a Warlock with Seymour Duncan Live Metal Wire pickups through a Mesa Dual Rectifier. He would not tell me his eq settings, but I will probably find out eventually. Gotta hate when guitarists guard their settings like it is the holy grail.


I don't get it. The settings are all there on the knobs and they're going to be different for every guitar, amp and player. Everybody's touch is a little different. They aren't guarding anything, they just aren't wasting their time talking about it. What'd be the point. If you can't figure out where to turn the knobs then you've got no chance of getting the rest of it right.

That Duncan Metal Live Wire is an absolutely insane pickup. You won't find anything with more power and evil intent that can fit in a guitar.

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