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Not sure if this has been posted before, but I found it pretty interesting.

This month's Rolling Stone Magazine has a feature article on the 'new guitar gods' with John Mayer, John Frusciante and Derek Trucks on the cover. I wasn't too impressed by their '100 greatest guitar players' list a few years ago, but I think they've got it right with this one. IMO John Mayer, John Frusciante and Derek Trucks are among the greatest 'modern' guitar players so I'm pretty stoked they made the cover. But what does the pit think?
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#2
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Not sure if this has been posted before,



It has.


I have to disagree though. I think there are better players out there.
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#4
Petrucci, Romeo, Akerfeldt, and many others are much better.
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#5
Everyone loves John Frusciante. He can play, like, 3 notes and make it sound amazing. I hope that didn't offend anyone, but that's what he does!

He's hardly a 'new' guitar god, but he has been recognised recently.
#7
Im sure there will be much disagreement over this, i'd say john frusciante and john mayer are both really good guitarists in different ways (and on an unrelated side note i'd totally do them both)
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#8
I'm so glad Derek made the list. Saw him live with the Allman Bros. (his band opened for them) and it was amazing.
#9
Well it depends on how you define Guitar Gods. I'm sure there's people who can shred better than those three, but they're more like the new Clapton or Jimmy Paige. Very good "pocket" players who can still show off a little.
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#10
Frusciante is old......mayer ehh no

so far the only guitar gods I can think of that are fairly recent is lamb of gods guitarist and Herman li(even though he sounds like a slot machine) but there arent enough solos in rock/metal for me to tell. I would like metalcore more if they had more solos but they WANT people to not be impressed by them(e.g Killswitch engage)
#12
it's dumb that they call John Mayer "Slowhand Jr."

Tom Verlaine & Richard Llyod could pwn his whiny ass anyday

#13
Haha...John Mayer is shit. Aside from being a really good player, he brings absolutely nothing new to the genre, and is basically just taking up space.

And his entire early career was disgraceful.
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#14
Trucks is amazing, i think there are better players that could have made the list though.
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Petrucci, Romeo, Akerfeldt, and many others are much better.


Ok, I've gotta be honest...I haven't even heard of Romeo or Akerfeldt so I'm in no position to judge, but as a blues/jazz lover I'm pretty happy to see some blues guitarists being called guitar gods...I think alot of 'guitar gods' these days are just people that can play really really fast, which does nothing for me. I mean, I consider Keith Richards to be one of the truly great guitar gods, and he can barely play in time (and even forgot the riff to Rough Justice when I saw the Stones). So yeah, there are certainly technically better/faster guitar players out there, but does that make them guitar gods?
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Haha...John Mayer is shit. Aside from being a really good player, he brings absolutely nothing new to the genre, and is basically just taking up space.

And his entire early career was disgraceful.

exactly, the guy's good but he's using his powers for crappy pop music!! a man once told me "With Great Power, Comes Great Responsilbites" obviously little John Mayer never heard that before

#17
What about Laiho? Just to name one of many great metal guitarists.
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Quote by jase_connor
Ok, I've gotta be honest...I haven't even heard of Romeo or Akerfeldt so I'm in no position to judge, but as a blues/jazz lover I'm pretty happy to see some blues guitarists being called guitar gods...I think alot of 'guitar gods' these days are just people that can play really really fast, which does nothing for me. I mean, I consider Keith Richards to be one of the truly great guitar gods, and he can barely play in time (and even forgot the riff to Rough Justice when I saw the Stones). So yeah, there are certainly technically better/faster guitar players out there, but does that make them guitar gods?

I don't think so, it's really about artistry and good music. I don't think technical ability should be part of the criteria for judging a 'guitar god' but I certainly think that those who are technically profficient are more likely to make good music because they know the what's what about guitar. That's all.
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Ok, I've gotta be honest...I haven't even heard of Romeo or Akerfeldt so I'm in no position to judge, but as a blues/jazz lover I'm pretty happy to see some blues guitarists being called guitar gods...I think alot of 'guitar gods' these days are just people that can play really really fast, which does nothing for me. I mean, I consider Keith Richards to be one of the truly great guitar gods, and he can barely play in time (and even forgot the riff to Rough Justice when I saw the Stones). So yeah, there are certainly technically better/faster guitar players out there, but does that make them guitar gods?


lol

You honestly think that people call anyone besides blues/classic rock guitarists the guitar gods? Please. Every year, it's all the same.

Watch this, I can make the average list of any magazine right off the top of my head-

1. Jimmy Page
2. Jimi Hendrix
3. Derek Trucks
4. B.B. King

...

Blah, blah, blah. Year after year, list after list after list, that's all we get. The same wankery over Jimmy Page and Jimi Hendrix and other guitarists in the same vein of music. "lol staiway!!!!lol Little WIng!!! LOL!

"lol shredzorrz has noo emotion!!! lol the only emmotion is sadness!!!"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoxhaH6jTtQ

Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean you can ignore the obvious emotion, talent, and time put into music like this.

EDIT -

I really want to magnify the idiocy that it takes to even think about saying that 'shred has no emotion'

Seriously. If you think this, just kill yourself. Please. You don't have to like the music, but if you truly, truly think that... Just kill yourself for the sake of natural selection.
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Petrucci, Romeo, Akerfeldt, and many others are much better.

+1
Akerfeldt and Petrucci are IMO two of the best guitarists out there right now.
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Better than a lot of other choices they could've made.

Very true.
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+1
Akerfeldt and Petrucci are IMO two of the best guitarists out there right now.

Also, very true
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#25
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I don't think so, it's really about artistry and good music. I don't think technical ability should be part of the criteria for judging a 'guitar god' but I certainly think that those who are technically profficient are more likely to make good music because they know the what's what about guitar. That's all.


Yeah good point mate, I definitely agree with that. I for one have huge respect for guitarists like Petrucci and I think they make very good music, it just isn't my thing. Which leads me to this guy...

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EDIT -

I really want to magnify the idiocy that it takes to even think about saying that 'shred has no emotion'

Seriously. If you think this, just kill yourself. Please. You don't have to like the music, but if you truly, truly think that... Just kill yourself for the sake of natural selection.


Mate, I don't think anyone here is claiming that 'shred has no emotion'. Although personally, the songs that I find are truly emotional are usually the ones with very 'slow' guitar parts, like Bob Dylan or Jeff Buckley songs for example, or even songs with no guitar parts at all. After all, emotion is a subjective thing, and I guess shred has more emotional appeal to you than it does to me, that's all I'm saying.
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And his entire early career was disgraceful.


You do realize that he has admitted that very same thing multiple times? He's stated that he only did "pop" stuff to make money and get his name out there so when he did make a blues album, which is what he wanted to do from the beginning, people would buy it and maybe help get more people interested in blues. He's said that he doesn't even like his old music.
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Quote by Dirtydeeds468
Haha...John Mayer is shit. Aside from being a really good player, he brings absolutely nothing new to the genre, and is basically just taking up space.

And his entire early career was disgraceful.



dude no offense, but what the hell do you bring thats new to your genre?

what have you brought musically to anyone?

o ya, nothing yet.

anyways, Trucks is amazing. saw him in concert once and he was just nasty.

Frusciante has been one of my favorites since i started playing 10 years ago.
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#28
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Yeah good point mate, I definitely agree with that. I for one have huge respect for guitarists like Petrucci and I think they make very good music, it just isn't my thing. Which leads me to this guy...



I agree.

I don't like to try to convert people but...(listen to it, it's slow like you like)
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exactly, the guy's good but he's using his powers for crappy pop music!!


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#32
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dude no offense, but what the hell do you bring thats new to your genre?

what have you brought musically to anyone?

o ya, nothing yet.


Might as well just ask the same of yourself. Der. Make a note next time you critique someone else's music in one of your posts, I'll be looking for it.
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#33
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Mate, I don't think anyone here is claiming that 'shred has no emotion'. Although personally, the songs that I find are truly emotional are usually the ones with very 'slow' guitar parts, like Bob Dylan or Jeff Buckley songs for example, or even songs with no guitar parts at all. After all, emotion is a subjective thing, and I guess shred has more emotional appeal to you than it does to me, that's all I'm saying.


No, I don't really think that anyone in this thread was saying that...But here at UG, shred/music with any fast, technical instruments get an INSANE amount of shit from all the classic rock/blues/jazz elitists who usually say that 'shred has no emotion.'
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#34
just got the issue, i was actually rather impressed. they had matt pike from high on fire, adam jones from tool, tom morello, and ed o brian and johnny greenwood - radiohead on it. of course thay had jack white, he's okay, but certainly not a god, and they should never have included omar from the mars volta, he's so overated, and he SUCKS live.
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You do realize that he has admitted that very same thing multiple times? He's stated that he only did "pop" stuff to make money and get his name out there so when he did make a blues album, which is what he wanted to do from the beginning, people would buy it and maybe help get more people interested in blues. He's said that he doesn't even like his old music.


Huh. Well, that's one way to do it. Pretty lame, but I guess it worked.
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#36
I'd say Matt Heafy, Corey Beaulieu, Herman Li and Synyster Gates.....
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#37
Joe Bonamassa should be on the list
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lol

You honestly think that people call anyone besides blues/classic rock guitarists the guitar gods? Please. Every year, it's all the same.

Watch this, I can make the average list of any magazine right off the top of my head-

1. Jimmy Page
2. Jimi Hendrix
3. Derek Trucks
4. B.B. King

...

Blah, blah, blah. Year after year, list after list after list, that's all we get. The same wankery over Jimmy Page and Jimi Hendrix and other guitarists in the same vein of music. "lol staiway!!!!lol Little WIng!!! LOL!

"lol shredzorrz has noo emotion!!! lol the only emmotion is sadness!!!"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoxhaH6jTtQ

Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean you can ignore the obvious emotion, talent, and time put into music like this.

EDIT -

I really want to magnify the idiocy that it takes to even think about saying that 'shred has no emotion'

Seriously. If you think this, just kill yourself. Please. You don't have to like the music, but if you truly, truly think that... Just kill yourself for the sake of natural selection.


You said exactly the same things that I was going to post in this thread. Thanks for saving my trouble. Check this out too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NfZBvRvkIg
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