#1
Could anyone please help me out with Creating a harmony a third up with a note like 4th fret on the A string (C#/Db) How could I create a 3rd going up if it winds up between E and F? Should it go Should it be E or F or will I even be able to do this? Any help would be great. THanks
#2
You generally use the note that fits in the scale. If you're in C# minor or something that uses a C# minor chord, you would play E. If you were in C# major or something that uses a C# major chord, you would use E# (you can't call it F since F# is the fourth).
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Quote by bangoodcharlote
You generally use the note that fits in the scale. If you're in C# minor or something that uses a C# minor chord, you would play E. If you were in C# major or something that uses a C# major chord, you would use E# (you can't call it F since F# is the fourth).

there's no such thing as E#...
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Quote by kyrreca
yes there is

there is? i thought there was no note between E and F... oh well, i'm probably wrong, i suck at music theory anyways
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Quote by kyrreca
yes there is


Seconded. You can't have one note name with two functions.
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#10
id like to be enlightened on the fact that there is an E sharp!!! Please enlighten me..............

p.s before you do this, go and find the E sharp on a piano????????????????????
#11
I also did not know there was a note between E and F. If I was playing C# then thrid would be E# If that really is a note.... B-C and E-F just go from E to F and B to C
#12
it's the same note as E, but if you're going to write out C# major, it's
C#D#E#F#G#A#B# C#,
not
C# D# F F# G# A# C C#
#13
^ Alright, I have a piano RIGHT beside me. I need all but two seconds to turn and locate the E sharp..


Image attached. I'd like you to try and tell me why that isn't an E #....
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#14
the answer is F.

The reason is as follows:

the start note is C# So using that as the root note and using the major scale intervals
(ROOT TONE TONE SEMITONE TONE TONE TONE SEMITONE) a third up from c# (ROOT TONE TONE )is F. There is no such thing as E# a semitone up from E is F as there is no semitone in between as stated in the major sale intervals.

Distance between E and F and also B and C is a semitone (NO SHARPS OR FLATS), that is the rule and theory basics. Every other pair of notes has a Tone between them (that is there is a sharp or flat in between them) i.e A A# B, C C# D , D D# E , F F# G , G G# A

Read the AB Schol of music book, it tells you the whole story a bit more clearly than i can.

TONE = 2 FRETS ON A GUITAR

SEMITONE = 1 FRET
#16
Hey rik, triple posting aside....

Do me a favour, please.

All I want you to do is spell out the notes in C# major, or even F# major.

I'll wait here. I'm only being sassy because you are talking down to me, and I think you need to know that an E# DOES exist.
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Quote by rik231
the bottom line is the right way to right it out ky.


why don't you stop quadruple posting and learn some theory
we're not saying E# and F are two different notes that have a different pitch, it's two ways of naming the same note, like Ab and G#


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#18
I'd just like to point out that E# and F are only the same pitch in an equal tempered system

I know it's almost a semantical distinction because most people never see the need to consciously play anything otherwise (subconsciously correcting thirds etc to be in tune I wouldn't count here) but that's the way it is
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Quote by SOADrox429
there is? i thought there was no note between E and F... oh well, i'm probably wrong, i suck at music theory anyways


E# is F. Fb is E. They are possible within scales, but most people see them as just E or F.


Anyway, if you don't know theory and you are wanting to create 3rd harmonies, there is one thing that I always did till I got the sound I wanted...

TRIAL AND ERROR

just keep pluggin away until you get the sound you want. It helps a lot if you have a recording program or something to listen to yourself. Most small phrases I use a delay pedal that has 7-second playback on it so I can play over whatever I just semi-recorded.
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