#1
Why does the 12 fret have 2 dots?
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Because it's the octLawLve.
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#7
the 12th fret is very important because its one octave higher than the "0th" fret (ie: playing a string open), so it helps you see which notes on the fretboard are 1 octave higher than other notes on the fretboard
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#8
because the twelveth fret is like a michael jackson on steroids. it's out there to make love to little kids with his testosterone driven libido.

nah...marks another octave.
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#12
the note played on each fret after it will be exactly 1 octave above the fret 12 frets below it (if you could understand that)

it means second octave, so to speak
#13
I think this thread needs another person to say "octave" - so I'm gonna say it too.


It's the octave of the open strings .


If you look at a piano, play one note and go up 12 keys and you're at the same note an octave higher.

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#14
because the people who made the guitar put 2 dots there.


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#15
that fret is exactly halfway down the string. anywhere else is either on one half or the other half. Also, because the octave commands they be there.
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^ 21 frets and 22 frets is all I have to say to your falf way marker comment. As pretty much everyone has said, it's an octave above the open string, or in lame-mans terms, it's the same note as the string name, but higher lol.
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Why does the 12 fret have 2 dots?

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one time a long time ago in the ages of one dot on the 12th fret.. there was a man by the name of rick james and bestowed upon his worshippers "Let there be 2 dots on the 12th fret!" and so the legacy began...

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#20
its actually called the "pussy marker". I'f youre playing to right left of it (or right of it if you're a lefty), you're a pussy.
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#22
It marks the octave.
Then the 24th fret should have 4 dots, man..

It also, more importantly, marks the middle of the neck.
#23
well supposedly... if you stare at the spot directly between them long enough... oh **** it... its the goddamn octave
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See, Liek, Herman Li never goes below the too dots, but youll see that ****ing pussy paul micartny playing in front of the dots all the time. wuss.
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^ 21 frets and 22 frets is all I have to say to your falf way marker comment. As pretty much everyone has said, it's an octave above the open string, or in lame-mans terms, it's the same note as the string name, but higher lol.


No. He was actually right. The neck of a guitar with 22 frets just goes down the body further. The 12th fret is always in the middle.

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#26
because if you are a n00b like me it indicates the start of where you can solo cause i usually sound crap if i solo before the 12th fret but it sounds repetitive only using the last 10 frets lol.

god i need to get better at soloing
but nah it indicates start of 2nd octave as basically every single person has said
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#27
to signify it's the an octave, the octave of a string for that matter. Just like the 24th fret, is another octave
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If you play mostly above the two dots you are a lead guitarist and get first pick of the hot chicks.
If you play mostly below the two dots you are a rhythm guitarist and just above the bassist in the pecking order.
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least i get hot chicks
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#31
Quote by Dr. B
If you play mostly above the two dots you are a lead guitarist and get first pick of the hot chicks.
If you play mostly below the two dots you are a rhythm guitarist and just above the bassist in the pecking order.



That's why you should sing when you're the rhythm guitarist. You get 3 girls for everyone 1 that the others get.




...and to be on topic...

OCTAVE.
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That's why you should sing when you're the rhythm guitarist. You get 3 girls for everyone 1 that the others get.



...and to be on topic...

OCTAVE.

No, that's why you should be lead, rhythm AND sing. That way, nobody else will get any girls :P


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#34
Okay, everyone is saying octave, but why does my Hohner LW-1200N 12 string have two dots at the 7th fret? Why also does my Yamaha FG-150 acoustic have 2 dots at the 7th fret (this doesn't have a dot at the third)?
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#35
To confuse you.
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Okay, everyone is saying octave, but why does my Hohner LW-1200N 12 string have two dots at the 7th fret? Why also does my Yamaha FG-150 acoustic have 2 dots at the 7th fret (this doesn't have a dot at the third)?

Because the 7th fret is half of the half of the string length (1/4th). I'ts halfway between the nut and the 12th fret (don't say it isn't cuz it is, don't go by counting frets cuz they're all different sizes).
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Because the 7th fret is half of the half of the string length (1/4th). I'ts halfway between the nut and the 12th fret (don't say it isn't cuz it is, don't go by counting frets cuz they're all different sizes).
I thought that was the 5th fret, what with the frets nearer the nut being bigger, and the natural harmonic is there is two octaves up, so it'd be a quarter of the scale length.
#38
"The 2 dots on the twelfth fret is not just a simple octave marker, it dates back to the ancient Celts on the advent of the 12th century, when the culture had developed gradually and continuously.In Ireland little archaeological evidence was found for large intrusive groups of Celtic immigrants, suggesting to historians such as Colin Renfrew that the native late Bronze Age inhabitants gradually absorbed European Celtic influences and language. The very few continental La Tène culture style objects which had been found in Ireland could have been imports, the possessions of a few rich immigrants, or the result of selectively absorbing cultural influences from outside elites, further supporting this theory of cultural exchange rather than migration.[citation needed]Julius Caesar wrote of people in Britain who came from Belgium (the Belgae), but archaeological evidence which was interpreted in the 1930s as confirming this was contradicted by later interpretations.[citation needed] The archaeological evidence is of substantial cultural continuity through the first millennium BCE, although with a significant overlay of selectively-adopted elements of La Tène culture. There is numismatic and other evidence of continental-style states appearing in southern England close to the end of the period possibly reflecting in part immigration by élites from various Gallic states such as those of the Belgae. However, this immigration would be far too late to account for the origins of Insular Celtic languages. In the 1970s the continuity model was taken to an extreme, popularised by Colin Burgess in his book The Age of Stonehenge which theorised that Celtic culture in Great Britain "emerged" rather than resulted from invasion and that the Celts were not invading aliens, but the descendants of the people of Stonehenge. The existence of Celtic language elsewhere in Europe, however, and the dating of the Proto-Celtic culture and language to the Bronze Age, makes the most extreme claims of continuity impossible."