#1
Hey everyone, I'm really anxious to upgrade this horrible, horrible amp I have. I'm not sure what to get, and a few amps I was looking at aren't tube amps, everyone seems to always have nothing but positive things to say about tube amps.

My budget is $300-400, though I would go slightly higher if a nice amp were just out of the 400 price range. I enjoy mostly rock/hard rock: metal, trash, etc.. though I love classic rock just as much. I'd like to upgrade, but at the same time I don't want to settle for something poor. If theres great amps in the $400 price range I'd love to upgrade now, but if they are nothing special, then I'd rather hold out for a while and save up more for something better. The downside to this is it may be a while to save up a few hundred more, and my amp I have now is garbage.

I'd love to hear comments.
#3
They are much more expresive. Like, the tone changes more radically the harder you hit your strings. And when they're cranked, the natural overdrive you get from the volume creates tones that just can't be reached from a SS amp. I had the hardest time replicating tom morellos sound without one.
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#4
is the pope catholic?
the peavey valve kings are about the cheapest good ones i have found.
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the peavey valve kings are about the cheapest good ones i have found.


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#10
Are valve amps that much better? Yes. No question.
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Are valve amps that much better? Yes. No question.


Damn, nice gear. PGM 301 and a Rocker 30. I'm jealous.
#12
Whether solid state or tube is better is completely subjective.
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#13
yes and no. Tube = better tonal qualities, SS = cheaper and lower maintenance. If you have the cash, tube > SS. If not....praise god SS amps exist.
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#14
Tube amps are terribly hard to upkeep. Before I ever ventured into tube-land, I heard preaching about how SS amps made life easier.

Bah, I say.


If you want "good" tone, there is no question the tube amps are the way to go. They are simply nicer on the ear. Will you have to put out $100 every year or two? Sure. But with that said, what you get back is tenfold. Rich tone, warm when you want it. Dark when you need it. It won't clip out. You have control over the sounds you make.

Anyone who has ever said any SS amp holds a candle to any mentionable tube amp doesn't know what they're talking about.

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^ Compare the cleans from the Roland JC-120 to any Fender tube amp. There are higher-end solid states that can also do metal distortion VERY well and compete against some of the middle-of-the-road or higher end metal amps.
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#16
Say, didnt Dimebag Darrell use solid states? If you know how to dial in EQ's just right, you can get a greater sound with an SS than some other people with tube amps. But, yeah, tube amps are generally better, just know how to work it.
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Damn, nice gear. PGM 301 and a Rocker 30. I'm jealous.

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Say, didnt Dimebag Darrell use solid states? If you know how to dial in EQ's just right, you can get a greater sound with an SS than some other people with tube amps. But, yeah, tube amps are generally better, just know how to work it.

I hear alot of metal heads like the distortion on SS amps more than Tube amps....I totally blanked on the reason why, but they generally sounds alot more harsh, If you will.

I don't like solid state amps as much though, but they can get pretty good.
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I hear alot of metal heads like the distortion on SS amps more than Tube amps....I totally blanked on the reason why, but they generally sounds alot more harsh, If you will.

I don't like solid state amps as much though, but they can get pretty good.


Yea, Jinskee is right... when it comes to a good METAL sound... SS or tube is all a matter of opinion.

But when it comes to classic rock or pretty much anything else, most will agree that tube is much better.
#20
O, well I would get a tube amp any day over an SS, I was just saying that SS isnt all that bad. Heck if I was rich, I would get an expensive tube amp and an expensive SS amp, and an expensive digital amp, and an expenive hybrid/transtube amp, just to have them and gain more knowledge of what sounds you can acheive. Ahh... maybe someday.....
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#21
Quote by Jinskee
I hear alot of metal heads like the distortion on SS amps more than Tube amps....I totally blanked on the reason why, but they generally sounds alot more harsh, If you will.


I suppose it's because tubes give a classic sound and much modern metal uses such a highly compresses tone with artificially high gain that it sounds not at all natural anyway.
I must admit there is a tone I like which is so artificial that most classic rock fans would faint, but it sounds kind of futuristic to me.
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